im just curious.. im currently running a p4 2.4GHZ computer but am going to build a new one.. im gonna switch to either the amd 64x2 3800 or 4200 dual core chip.. my question is.. i just noticed that both of these say the ghz on them are 2.0ghz and 2.2ghz respectively. numerically they are obviously lower than my current 2.4ghz..are they gonna be much faster than what i have now?? id be using it for graphics in CS and games mostly.. nothing too extravagent.. thanks
3800+ and 4200+ is AMD's way of saying that these are equal to Intel P4 chips running at that MHz, so a 3800+ X2 is like TWO Intel P4's running at 3.8 GHz. I have both a P4 2.0 GHz machine and the new one in my sig. The new machine encodes video in about a fourth of the time of the Intel machine.
hey dog,is it better to make a disk just with windows?and why put 2 hd in raid 0[that letter is d right?]so you cant corrupt windows?just wondering,sounds like a awesome idea,is it fast and real reliable that way?thanks
In a raid 0 or stripped array, if one disk has a problem then all of your data is likely lost. The two Hitachi's in Raid 0, each on their own channel are exceedingly fast, but I just didn't want to have to reinstall program files, drivers, windows, updates, etc. The Hitachi raid array is video storage, music storage, etc., since all of this data in on cd's or dvd's, it would be easy to recreate. The 2 Hitachi's in raid 0 are as fast or faster than the Raptor on some tasks. Also I've only had this system for about a month and am still in the process of testing it, tearing it down and redoing it until I've got it running perfect. It's all real stable, but when you trying to find the max OC of a system its always possible to screw it up good. The Raptor disk is awesome, it's twice as fast as any other SATA or IDE drive (it's a SATA drive based on a high speed SCSI server drive), and I'm tempted once I get the rest of the sytem perfected to add another one in a raid 0 boot. If I did that I'd dedicate another drive to backup my boot system, not a Raid 0+1, but just a disk that I'd run a backup routine to once or twice a week. The SATA raid allows each disk to have its own channel, since only half (or a third in a three disk array) of the data goes to each disk then this really speeds up data transfer. Of course there is processor overhead with motherboard based raid controllers, three disks is about the max before overhead eats up any gains. So I went with the Raptor as the windows boot disk and repository of program files, because I wanted to have a nice safe and fast windows/program disk. And the Hitachi's are in Raid 0 because it makes them about as fast as the Raptor for the video processing that I do, and gives me a monster of almost 500 megs. But I like the supercharging that I get with the Raid 0 so much, that I might go that route on my boot disk once I quite playing with the computer's guts. Another downside to Raid 0 is that it is controller specific, if you take an array out of one computer with one brand of controller and then stuff them in another computer with a different chipset based controller you may not be able to read them. So you need to have some backup routine.
thats alot of storage bro,damn.8 hard drives thats crazy.probably can put everything on that pc including the kitchen sink[this is a american phase].....lol....unbeliveable....new super computer huh?...lol :} crazy dude or babe[lol]
i run every thing in my room through it through it...ps2..cable tv..xbox..vcr..& what ever else so i guess u can concider it a entertainment pc..hats y i have soo much storage..i only have 1 tb in disk space now and i think ima leave it that way 1 tb allready almost too much.. i have it hooked up to full srround...crap that reminds me i diddent put down my sound card... but its sweet
thats funny man....your system sounds nice...i run my ps2,gc,xbox through a a little box.play my games on the moniter,look so much better then on a tv.it called rtv it coverts the video to composite video so i didnt have to mod the systems they just plug in and play through monitor and sound card thru pc.i bought a decoder from creative labs to make the sound possible through pc.heres mine,just built a week ago: thermaltake tsunami case with side window-all alum amd64 3700+ san diego asus star ice heatsink and fan[not load at 2500 rpms,stays@33c-42c load][@5500 rpms loud 32c load] ocz el platinium 1gb kit[2x512] timings 2 2 2 5- 1T[unbelieveably fast,not overclocked] asrock 939-sata2 mobo[has both interfaces---agp and pci express] sony dru810a cd/dvd burner [i have two] x-fi fatal1ty creative labs sound card[64mb ram drive built in sound card] samsung floppy 6800 gt overclocked bfg agp somes lights on the ide cable to make it sweet western digital 250gb 16mb cache sata 2 hard drive [real quit and cool stays at 32c even under load]
Just saw this thread and thought I'd ask what rould be the best Motherboard to get for a new system that I'm building running either AMD 64 FX-57 or X2 4800+ if I don't need SLi. (For the price of 2 7800 GTXs I could buy another processor). I want the nForce 4 Ultra version of whatever the best MOBO for this purpose is, with PCI-E for just 1 video card. I was looking at MSI, DFI, Gigabyte, or ASUS. Seems like they come pretty highly recommended by just about everyone. Probably a couple of WD raptors, and ulrta low latency 512 MB modules of DDR400 RAM from either Corsair, OCZ, Mushkin, or whatever else you guys think is best to go with the MOBO that you guys recommed.
alot of people like dfi cause the overclocking is crazy,but as i understand.go to dfi street before you buy.msi seems stable and reliable sometimes.people were having problems with memory not reading,and someother tech problem.asus i hear good and bad,dont know really,gigabite i dont here much.theres also a evga board that comes bundled with a video card.check out there siye.www.evga.com....the best video card to date evga 7800 gtx ko,comes in 4 or 5 colors. its so hard cause it seems everybody has problems,if you go shop at newegg.com,you can look at mobo and read reviews also go to anandtech.com is another good site for reference material on everything
hey im havin troble with the pc im building for my brother much lower scale than mine i hooked everything up right and i get no signal to mobo no beeps any reccmendatons itsa a pc chips w32 and has a sempron 2800......??
FX-57 or X2 4800+. I reckon for single-thread applications the FX will best the X2, but as soon as dual core apps start appearing the X2 will toast the FX. Plus i believe the X2 is slightly cheaper.
hey sam ,thanks for your help,really appriciate it finally built it...hl2 benchmark 135 fps[fast as hell] thermaltake tsunami case with side window-all alum amd64 3700+ san diego asus star ice heatsink and fan[not load at 2500 rpms,stays@33c-42c load][@5500 rpms loud 32c load] ocz el platinium 1gb kit[2x512] timings 2 2 2 5- 1T[unbelieveably fast,not overclocked] asrock 939-sata2 mobo[has both interfaces---agp and pci express] sony dru810a cd/dvd burner [i have two] x-fi fatal1ty creative labs sound card[64mb ram drive built in sound card] samsung floppy 6800 gt overclocked bfg agp somes lights on the ide cable to make it sweet western digital 250gb 16mb cache sata 2 hard drive [real quit and cool stays at 32c even under load]
