An idea for the guy who needs to convert PAL to NTSC:

Discussion in 'DVD±R for advanced users' started by sadsac, Mar 9, 2005.

  1. dondds

    dondds Guest

    sadsac ...

    Wanted to thank you for the info on Vobblanker & Ifoedit. Works !! Spent most of the past 2 days trying to convert PAL to NTSC using many various programs. Saw your post ... got the 2 programs .... tried it, took all of 30 minutes and the first conversion was done. My Sony up-converting DVD player happily accepted the disk and played the contents. Just finished the second disk and it also plays like a regular DVD.

    thanks again,

    wallyc
     
  2. Nosredneh

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    Dondds & sadsac,
    I am confused I have tried the method outlined by Dondds in the led post in order to convert PAL to NTSC using VOB Blanker. IT DOES NOT WORK. I have tried to over a dozen times with result not good. There must be something else involved that just changing the attribute from PAL to NTSC. IT DOES NOT WORK.
     
  3. dondds

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    nosredneh,

    I am working with 2 files sent to me by a fellow in England. They are the only PAL files I have worked with .. recorded with his camcorder.
    I followed SADSAC's examples using VOBblanker, right clicking on the appropiate file to change the 'attributes'. Then finished the 'process'. Next I used, as instructed, IFOEDIT on the 'video_ts.ifo' file and only on the 'video_ts.ifo' file and changed the info where needed. Saved the file. Burned 1 file with '1 clickdvdcopy' and the other with 'clonedvd2'. I used 2 programs because I was having trouble with the second file. Edited only the 'video_ts.ifo' file and used 'clonedvd2' and was successful.
    Last year, tried converting a file from the same fellow in England and then i used 'womblie' to sync the sound and 'nero' to re-code. But, have forgotten the steps and it took HOURS !! This is so much faster and works for me ...

    wallyc



     
  4. Nosredneh

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    dondds,
    In my earlier post, I meant that sadsac had begun this theard with the post about using VOB BLANKER AND IFOEdit. I have used that method and the one you just mentioned. I have even found a way to go much deeper using IFOEdit and change other PAL references. Maybe the problem is that I cannot use VOB BLANKER. I loose everytime I use it.
     
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  5. dondds

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    nosredneh,

    I can only comment on what workds for me and the files I have to convert. When I use vobblanker, it shows (for me) 2 lines of the file I am working on ... the second line, after right clicking, has the video attributes I can change. Use ifoedit to check the lines in 'video_ts.ifo' that list video info and if needed change the info to match what was done in vobblanker, save the file and the changes are made. At the end of one of the programs,somewhere, there is a question about changing the ALL of the '*.bup' files as well as the '*.ifo' files - I don't remember which program asks that question, anyway - I ran into trouble when I answered "yes", when I answered "no", the conversion worked. I noticed on the first file I did that the 'vts_01_0.*' files were bigger than the 'video_ts.*' files and when I said yes to the question, the files were the same size (much smaller) and the conversion failed. So, just say no ...... and only the 'video_ts.*' files are changed.
    As I said, I only have experience with the files I have and there are only 2 files and this process works for me.
    Hope this helps,
    wallyc
     
  6. yromashin

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    Hello Nosredneh,

    Why do not you try NERO? It does an excellent conversion from PAL to NTSC. It is not a free program, but it is great one to have.

    Roma
     
  7. Nosredneh

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    yromashin,
    I use NERO 7. Are you taking about converting a DVD disk in *.VOB format? If so explain. I have tried and can't. Maybe due to ignorance. If you are talking about *.AVI, *.MPG, *.MP4 or so on then I know that works. I do it all the time with NERO. I am looking for direct migration from PAL DVD to NTSC DVD. So please help me know how to use NERO to do that.
     
  8. Trom

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    When usin Nero 7 to convert a DVD(or video file) from PAL to NTSC use Nero Vision. When you load Nero Vision choose Make DVD - DVD Video, then import your DVD or add your Video files. When you have done that select Next and create a menu or leave a menu out, your choice. What you need to do now is click on "More" down on the bottom of the Nero Vision menu and select "Video Options". Here you can select NTSC as your video mode. There are other options here you can select to your liking. Having done that select next - next and either burn the result to a DVD -/+R or burn it to your hard disk so you can check it before you burn it to disk.
     
  9. yromashin

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    Thank you , Tron,

    That is exactly what I meant. Though I have never tried it for exactly this task, everything I have tried in NERO have given excellent result. Certainly, it is not the only program I use, but I like it the most. For example, I have redone full DVD making chapters 2-min long (NERO settings) instead of standard 5-min long. Or no chapters at all. A friend of mine DVD player had a problem with 5-min chapters. No problem after remake.

    Roma
     
  10. freddyfan

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    Trom,
    I've done successful PAL to NTSC conversions with Nero 7 Ultra too. Picture and sound
    quality are excellent. However, my new NTSC disc doesn't retain subtitles, menu's, or
    chapter stops. Have you been able to retain them using Nero?
     
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  11. Trom

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    In short, No. Whenever I do a Pal to NTSC with Nero I only do the main movie. However afaik most conversion apps have problems retaining subtitles and menus and I'm pretty certain there are no 1 click conversion apps that can achieve this. I did try it once but it was very involved neccessitating a plethora of apps, NuMenu4uFull, Sonic Scenarist, BeSweet, PgcEdit, Subtitleworkshop, VobSub, DGIndex to name but a few. Now while most of the apps needed were free or available on trial me it just was not worth the time to add a menu and have subtitles. Here is a link to the guide in case you are intrested http://www.ntsc2pal.hostrocket.com/.

     
  12. havingfun

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    I have successfully converted PAL to NTSC using following programs:

    1. DVDFab Decryptor
    2. VobBlanker
    3. IFOEdit
    4. DVD Shrink (Nero Ultra 6 as burn engine)

    It retained all the menus and movies. Worked really well in my computer setup. All of the above programs are freeware or shareware except Nero.
     
  13. ricsalt

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    Could you post a guide ? Or at least a list of the steps you followed ?

    Thanks-sounds very interesting.

    I guess you're using IfoEdit to retain the menus and subtitles. I've never used that program. Is it intuitive for a non-math guy ?

     
  14. Rob1026

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    this did not work for me! at all :( made four coasters with it boohoo i t looks like old video tapes trying to track and never does oh well
     
  15. havingfun

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    Yes, if you ran the IFOEdit, you will be able to retain the menus.

    1. Decrypt the DVD using DVD Decryptor or DVDFab Decryptor into HD
    2. Open the Vobblanker and open the main video file and change the video attrib from PAL to NTSC by right clicking mouse in the middle window box into new directory of your choice and click the "process" button on the bottom
    3. Now open IFOEdit and open each video file from the new directory that processed from Vobblanker individually, from bottom half of panel look for any lines with PAL designation. Double click the line and change attrib from PAL to NTSC when new pop-up window appears then save that file. DO THIS each file.
    4. Use DVD Shrink to analyse the new video files that you have just created/processed then burn to new blank DVD as usual.

    Once you play around with above programs, you should be able to see what I am talking about. Reading from all the other threads, there are many other ways people have successfully converted but this method worked for me. Good luck.

     
  16. ricsalt

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    Thanks havingfun-

    I'll be sure to try it. However I have reservations. I've used VOB Blanker as have many others on the forum. Most of the conversions using this method leave a green bar on 1/3 of the picture depending on what equipment you play it back on.

    Your method is along the lines of what I've contemplated doing myself. I have successfully converted the main movie of a dvd before. I know from various programs that making a menu affects the structure of the main movie. I've thought of removing the menus, converting the main movie, then putting the menus back but synching everything up has kept me from trying too hard.

    Thanks.
     
  17. freddyfan

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    Yes, I've used that method with [bold]success[/bold]. However playback of the NTSC DVD it produces can be hit or miss depending on the dvd player you play it in. I'm looking for a method that produces a NTSC disc that retains menus and subtitles [bold]and[/bold] will be able to play on [bold]any[/bold] dvd player without fail.
     
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  18. ricsalt

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    To Havingfun-

    Are you using windows XP and ifoedit ? The download page here says ifoedit doesn't work perfectly with xp.

    thanks
     
  19. havingfun

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    Yeap, I am using Window XP Pro version with latest security updates. I encountered no problem using IFOEdit.
     
  20. ricsalt

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    Great-
    I'll give it a try then.

    Thanks
     

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