Are standalone DVD recorders more of a problem for recording?

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  1. videobruce

    videobruce Member

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    I have two Magnavox/Funai H2160MW9 DVR/DVD recorders and the discs I have burned have playback problems on my Oppo 970HD DVD player and the two different optical drives in my PC. One recorder is the original version, the other is the newer 'A' version.

    On the Oppo, the playback studders, but interestingly, if I pause or stop playback and resume, the studdering usually goes away. This happens on multiple discs, anywhere on the disc and at anytime. Sometimes the video plays correctly the first time, if not, I can usually 'fix' the problem by stopping and restarting playback. Sometimes it takes two or three tries to get it to work.

    All of the material that was burned came off the HDD from S-VHS transfers. I also tried a time shift recording off of 'cable', but the problem is still there (at least during PC playback).
    Per recommendations, the last media I have tried were T-Y and RiData 8x -R's. Previously, I was using TDK, but there is no improvement.

    I understand these stand alone DVD recorders, unlike optical recorders in PCs' have record issues. This is my 1st stand alone DVD recorder. I have burned well over 150 DVDs' in a PC with little issues.

    Now what?
     
  2. Mrguss

    Mrguss Regular member

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    ARE STAND-ALONE DVD RECORDERS MORE OF A PROBLEM FOR RECORDING ?

    They could be....if you do not know what you are doing !
    For more info go to "Glossary" and read about the definitions of:
    DVD-Video, MPG-2, VOB, IFO and BUP.

    Hope this help.
     
  3. videobruce

    videobruce Member

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    A. Thanks for those links, but what do they have to do with anything? There isn't a whole lot of variables when 'burning' with a stand along recorder. Unlike on a PC, one has little if any control of the process.
    B. There is no need to quote a previous post, especially if that is the only post in the thread,
     
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  4. Mrguss

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    When you backup DVD's on a PC. the Programs do everything for you Automatically....like somebody is giving you food into your own mouth, you do not need to be a Scientific to do that.....right ?

    Try to do the same thing using a DVD-Player Recorder is a diff. ball-Game.
    Everything need's to get done Manually, and you better be ready for all kinds of Situations you may have. Including a Good Knowledge and a Good Budget($).

    Just to give you a small taste of your own cake:
    You need to Understand Digital Data on a DVD-Video and HOW TO MANUPULATE THE IFO's InFOrmation ON THE DVD you are working on it.
    The IFO provide information to the DVD Player and tell them; What, Where and When to Start and play any Video Chapter or where certain Audio Track is located on a DVD-Video, etc.
    At the end of your little Proyect you need to know if everything is working on synchrony (Audio-Video-Subtiles-Chapters-subchapters,etc).

    Hope this may help you.
     
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    I'm not backing up DVDs', I'm just burning DVDs' from a hard drive that was originally recorded from a external video source.
     
  6. JoeRyan

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    Most of the DVR or DVD video recorders are designed to record in the VR format at 1X. The VR format is one designed for video recording of an undetermined length because the length of the program is not set--a sports program may go longer than the time allotted to it. The DVD format, on the other hand, writes a table of contents before the recording because the computer or writing system knows exactly what the capacity is. That is one problem.

    The 1X recording is another. There are some recorders that can record from a hard drive at a higher rate of speed than 1X, but there are others that have problems with higher speeds. One of the most infamous was a Funai model sold under the Emerson and Samsung brands that could not record any DVD-R rated at faster than 4X. Walmart was selling tons of them to consumers and encouraging them to take home spindles of DVD-Rs--all of which were 8X, and all of which failed. Walmart complained to Fuji, Maxell, Memorex, and TDK that the problem was due to their discs alone and no other brand had the problem (Walmart apparently never realized that all the technical people at each company had known each other for years when they had worked together on magnetic tape!). Emerson at least issued a firmware update to allow recording to 8X DVD-R media. Samsung refused to acknowledge a problem, but the Emerson f/w update also worked on their recorder since it was identical to the Emerson model except for the faceplate. Walmart was informed about the problem and given the solution. They simply changed the store labels for the Emerson model to read "compatible with 8X" even though they still sold the restricted model that failed with all 8X media.

    Your best hope is to try to find rewritable 2X or 4X DVD-RW discs in the hope that your recorders are compatible with those discs at that speed. At one time one brand whom I advised planned to jump to 6X DVD-RW discs that would work with no DVD recorders at all. Because of the speed incompatibilities, they never did.
     
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    I would like to add:

    Friend of mine love to use DVD-RW 'cos they record at 4X: even if he is paying more money for them. (To make his first Transfer)
    His job is to transfer video from VHS to a DVD using all kind of programs: Programs that I never hear about them before....since those Companies that make those Programs beed shutdown by Corporations that make films....long time ago.

    This Old Programs Decrypt New DVD releases without any problem and they are working even better that the Famous AnyDVD or DVDFab new versions. (I am sorry to say it).

    Hope this help.
     

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