audio cd copy protection

Discussion in 'Audio' started by dodge_the, Jul 5, 2003.

  1. dodge_the

    dodge_the Guest

    Hi ya, I'm trying to copy an audio cd which i got from a local nigtclub, a cd of their dj-ing.
    My computer will not play the disk at all, and when i look at it under "My Computer" it just says cd rom, raw file system, 0 bytes used
    Clone cd will copy it but it will not play. It plays fine on my stereo system. any ideas?

     
  2. jakks

    jakks Regular member

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    If you have Nero u could save each track to ur pc
     
  3. tigre

    tigre Moderator Staff Member

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    Try
    1. Exact Audio Copy, "Detect TOC Manually" OR
    2. CloneCD + CDMage to play back / get audio from the image.
    If this doesn't work you probably won't be able to extract the audio with the drive you use. There are drives that can fool all audio CD protections that exist so far.
     
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    I think that dBPowerAmp is best for audio ripping, you can get MP3's and many many more with the correct plugins.
     
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    dBPowerAmp seems to lack proper secure reading modes (unless you use AccurateRip), but it does have some good features though.
     
  7. dodge_the

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    nope it's not happening guy's, i can't copy the audio cd sucessfully, i also tried the cd in a lite-on 48x writer,
    so, i've copied it from my line in (anologue). I've now got a 75 minutes .wav file which i need to cut up into tracks.

    Any idea which software is best for this?
     
  8. wilkes

    wilkes Regular member

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    Have you tried using Steinberg's WaveLab?
    It's not exactly cheap, but does work very well.
    It also has all the editing functions you will need for adding in markers without introducing those irritating 2 second gaps, plus it burns the CD as a Red Book Audio CD.
    Just a quick aside - if an Audio CD can't be copied, or played on a PC drive, then it is NOT a proper Audio CD, but a CD-ROM.
    In my opinion, this practise should be discouraged, as it is calling things something they are not. Maybe the Trade Descriptions Act would come into play here. This especially applies to CD's sold in shops as Audio CD's with video and Computer enhancements on them, or else discs that cannot be copied. They are not CD-A. Also, I may be wrong, but I believe the law allows you to take a single backup for your own use from an item you own, to avoid having to damage your original disc. Therefore, if you cannot copy it, is this not actually against the law???
     
  9. BTS2010

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    Well dude, it is [bold]NOT illegal to copy a CD-DA or CD-ROM for your own personal use,[/bold] only if you are selling it for profit or distributing it. As fir the ripping situation, http://download.com.com/3001-2140-10125657.html has a half decent CD-DA ripper, which can rip both to MP3 and WAV formats.
     
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    wilkes Regular member

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    please reread my post - I didn't actually say that it was illegal to copy any CD's.
    What I said was that calling CD-ROM's CD-DA's is wrong and should be discouraged. I also said that it is totally acceptable to make copies for your own use.
     
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    I'm so sorry, I was ina hurry to go swimming and I had just got the threAD update e-mail, and I didn't read it too good. I appologize.
     
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    wilkes Regular member

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    No worries - I have to admit I've done it myself on occasions. It's just that I really don't like being misquoted. Some sort of character flaw I guess.
    Anyway - back to the point. What does everyone think of the gradual eroding of standards to the state that a CD-ROM is being marketed as an Audio CD? I may be wrong, but doesn't the spec say that CD-A discs should be playable in any CD device, which by definition includes computers. Therefore these CD's cannot be CD-A, so if you get one in a record shop, do what I do and take the d***ed thing back and demand a refund!
    What's the general opinion here? You're all intelligent people, and I'd love to hear your views on this, as it bugs the life out of me.
     
  13. BTS2010

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    Well as far as I know, CD-DA is not a CD-ROM although it does have some integrations of a CD-ROM. Like when you put a an audio cd into a cd drive and view it via the explorer, it sees the .cda files which are the records of where tracks start and stop on the cd. Without those files, a cd drive/player would have to do a signifigant deal of scanning and searching the cd so it could change tracks on demand.

    I'm not exactly sure of what uyou mean by
    . I'm only 12. =)
     
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    I'm referring to those so-called Audio CD's/CD-A discs that won't play back in a computer, or else they have video files on them or other similar junk. I believe an Audio CD should be just that, and anything else should be marketed as what it is - a CD-ROM!
     
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    Very true, I can playback audio cds that are not CD-ROMs in my cd drive though. I use Windows XP(Stick with Mac OSX if you have it)and it has a built in CD Audio player.
     

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