Brand new burning woes

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  1. ScubaPete

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    bonky,


    I can only imagine you're asking for a link to your Mfg's drives -

    Well I'm pretty good there bonky but since you haven't mentioned what drives other than a "D" drive and an "F" drive and since I'm not physic you'll have to do it yourself.

    Go to Device Manager and click on your IDE controllers then click on your drives and you'll be able to find out what they are – If they are gone, open your PC and look at the drives, they will have the Mfg's name on each drive. "Google" the names and you'll find the install files. Too bad you aren't running something like windows XP. All the files would be there –

    Go get'em guy –




    Hi mimans21,

    What movies ?

    What is your burn speed ?

    Have you checked your Firmware ? (Bottom of the page, "Try this little tool I found.") http://flashman.rpc-1.com/

    Have you checked your ASPI Layer ? http://www.adaptec.com/worldwide/su...oduct/EZ-SCSI_5.0&filekey=aspichk.exe&sess=no

    No, nothing that we haven't been able to fix -

    Sure. Backing up DVD's isn't Brain surgery, it's pretty simple and so are the guides.

    Let's start by answering a few questions - I need answers to ALL OF THE QUESTIONS, Please -

    What version DVD Decrypter are you using ?

    What version DVD Shrink are you using ?

    What is the name and type of DVD disc are you using ?

    What DVD are you working with ?

    What errors are you getting and with what proggy ?

    We're waiting upon your answers -

    Pete

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  2. mimans21

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    Hey pete,
    i am using the latest DVD Decryptor and latest DVD Shrink. I checked those. I'm using DVD+R by Memorex. I am trying to burn SWAT, American Wedding. I'm using your guide extactly to burn the DVD's. Custom 4360 mb, iso form Shrink and burn with decryptor. The problem I'm having with the DVDs is the at the end of the movie it is all fuzzy and i can't even watch it. The DVD player says disc dirty, and my computer wont play the end. THe beginning of the movie is perfect, it's just the end that messed up.

    anything else you need??
     
  3. ScubaPete

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    Hey minans21,

    That was fine, it was all the information I required :)

    Believe it or not it's the media that you're using that's killing you -


    Memorex is an excellent example as DVD media goes, 90% of Memorex is sub-standard as far as DVD backups are concerned, figures as high as 50% coasters have been reported (One member bought a stack of 50 and got 23 good burns.), not what I would call an impressive record. Memorex made a name for itself with their magnetic tapes (VHS and audio cassettes) and have been living off it ever since. There are 4 different companies that manufacture Memorex DVD's BTW and product quality varies widely as you might imagine. Only 10% of the Memorex out there, those are discs manufactured by Mitsubishi in the 25 pack spindle , and they're the exception – they are the good ones. It's easy to see now why the quality of a big-named company can’t be trusted - “ Who’s making your Memorex tonight ?”

    Is it just Memorex ? No ! I just used Memorex as an example, Princo, Orange Pack, Great AZO and most "store" discs aren’t all that suitable as a DVD backup media – that’s why we are specific in the type of media we are recommending.

    1. * Cheap media freezes, skips, pixelats and may refuse to be recognized by both burners and players :-( Besides "Freezing", "skips" many times you’ll get a “Cyclic Redundancy error” or an "I/O error". This message can mean that your discs are scratched or dirty, it can also mean that your burner won’t accept your “cheap” media :-(
    Another problem which, “Pops up” is a “*Power Calibration Error”. This can stop you right in your tracks and most often is caused by, Yep, you guessed it, inexpensive media. *A “Power Calibration Error” can also be attributed to the Optical Components of a DVD Writer, though this isn’t usually the case.

    Orange Pack, Princo, Great AZO and 90% of Memorex plus many others are just not that good for DVD burning. Those same discs however, are quite good for your MP3 music, picture archives, Spread sheets and Data..Even DataSafe G04’s made by Ritek have been reported as an inferior quality media and are evoking that “Oh no, I shouldn’t have gotten those.”

    What we are suggesting is to download this DVD Identifier to find out who manufactured your DVD and if it's a decent quality.

    http://dvd.identifier.cdfreaks.com/

    Once you have your disc identified, click the "More information" icon and see what information you're given. if you're not sure of the quality, come on back and we'll check it out for you -

    2. A good grade, Hi-quality media is needed for DVD reproduction ! RiData, Sony, TDK, "Branded" Ritek G04's or "Branded" Verbatim Data Life, Verbatim DataLife plus, Taiyo Yuden's and generally, almost any discs manufactured by Mitsubishi are excellent bets. Among the better discs we're looking for, any media boasting "Advanced Metal AZO" - BUT it must say "METAL" AZO !, this indicates a superior dye and dye application on a good composite disc, while they are sometimes a bit "pricey" they are just the type of media we're looking for to do our DVD backups, Prices online from Meritline.com OR Newegg.com have gotten Ritek G04 starting at about a $ .45 (USD) a disc –

    For DVD backups, purchasing inexpensive media or even average media is a gamble, some people win BUT the majority lose, they lose varying amounts true but, they still lose :-(

    Using good grade media can guarantee you one thing to an absolute certainty; it surely cannot hurt.

    In an effort to clear the air, when I speak of "Cheap" or "Inexpensive" media, I'm not referring to the price you pay at the counter - I'm referring to poor quality control used during manufacturing and the quality of the dye, dye application or composite type used. I'm not saying it won't burn - Some may burn, some may not. It's quality is inconsistent, meaning it's not dependable.
    When I say "Branded" that means that when you pick up a disc in your hand, it says "Ritek" or "RiData" on the disc itself. The monetary cost of the media we recommend many times is cheaper than what you are purchasing now.

    We like to verify our information prior to recommending things. There are certain things we look at. For instance, when their dye and dye application are listed as unknown, this almost guarantees us they are using whatever they can get at a cheap price. Companies that use quality materials like to BRAG about it, naming names and staying with quality manufacturers who produce their media.

    Using DVD identifier and MediaMatch can help you find out a lot about what you're using. Purchasing your DVD media online can insure that you're getting quality merchandise at a good price. Shopping wisely will save you time, aggravation and money.

    To help get you through the rough spot of using your crap media, here's some help, though the solution to your problem is to buy some better quality discs.) -

    HOT TIPS for your POOR MEDIA:
    1. Here's a good fix. Compress your DVD to somewhere around 4.2GB instead of the recommended 4360MB. I.e., Go into DVD Shrink, "Edit", "Preferences" then set the "DVD Target Size" to "Custom" and enter 4200MB as the size. Reducing the amount of Data to be burned it keeps your burning away from the disc's edges where the dye on poor quality DVD discs tends to be uneven and may even be brittle and flaking.

    2. You may reduce the number of errors and "artifacts" (the "freezing", "skipping" and other picture abnormalities) when burning poor media by burning at a reduced speed. It will take longer but what the heck, you're saving money with those "Cheap" discs (Lol). Since you're compressing more it might be wise to burn just the movie, the less you burn the better the quality sooo, movie only, please.

    Cheers,

    Pete
     
  4. mimans21

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    Thank's pete
    i'll use this crappy media until i get rid of all of them , and then buy some better ones.
     
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    Pete,

    This isn't on topic or anything ... but i was wondering if you could have a look at the "freezing during analyzing/encoding" thread .... maybe throw in your 2 cents ...

    cheers.
     
  6. ScubaPete

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    Hey there Jake180,

    Heh, heh, I don't mind if you don't want to give me the address BUT do you think you could tell me what forum it's in ? ? ?




    (just messin with ya - I lQQked)
     
  7. jake180

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    LOL,

    I thought about posting the addy and forum when i was reading over the post ...then i was like ...nahh... he'll know where it's at ... lol

    cheers,

    thanks.
     
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    Huuummm, he knowth me too well, Lol)


     
  9. mimans21

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    hey my crappy discs work now thanks
     
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    mimans21,

    Glad to hear it - remember, Memorex can come up and bite you in the butt and not all of my "fix's" may not help. Get over the Memorex "Hump" and look for some good deals on quality discs.

    I.e. Newegg.com just had a 4-day sale on "Branded" RiData. $36.00 (USD) for a 100 piece cakebox with a $10.00 mail-in rebate. Charging $4.00 for Fed-Ex shipping the final cost was $.30ea. Not at all bad for quality discs.

    Cheers,

    Pete

    PS - What got'em working for you ? Inquiring readers want to know -

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    i did what you said turned the size into 4200mbs and burned at 2.4x the outer edge isn't burned so the movie looked perfect. I got the whole DVD not just the movie.
     
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    Congrats,

    You be da man ! ! !



     

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