Hello, I got a Philips DVP5140 (Divx Supported)a few weeks. I have a good size stack of DVD+Rs that I burned using Sonic DLA (I burned them before I known anything about UDF or ISO file systems and way before I thought I would get a stand alone Divx player)Sonic DLA seems to burn all disc in the UDF format. The Philips DVP5140 player does not seem to like this file system for Divx movies. I have burned a bunch of discs using Nero in the non-UDF setting and the discs play great I had some problems with the player playing any disc before because all my discs were in the UDF and it would not read any of them But finally I figured it all out and found out the player was not broken and it was just that the discs were in the UDF format not ISO like most, if not all stand alone Divx players all. My Question, is there a way in Nero, or in some kind of a program that can make all my already burned disc in the ISO format. Heres the tricky thing, I thought before that all the dvds I burned in the UDF format were closed, meaning there would be no way for me to reopen them and add anymore info, BUT when I stuck one of the UDF disc into nero a box came up saying 'this disc is not in the ISO(numbers followed here) format, would you like to change this disc to this format?' I clicked yes hoping that this would save me the 30 or so disc it would take me to reburn all the UDF discs to. Nero took me to the burn screen and burned something on the disc (even tho the disc was closed, I closed it in Sonic DLA I thought)I then open the disc and checked the contents in my computer, the file system now said UDF 1.2 or something like that, not just UDF. I Put the disc in my player hoping for the best, the player read it as no disc, just like it had with all the other UDF discs. Does anyone know anything about this file system stuff? I Google'd it many times and found some info here and there, but nothing about this and if a already burned disc can be made ISO file system when its been burned in the UDF file system. I heard of closing a disc in ISO, that might have been what was going on with that one disc I done, but I thought it was already closed, So strange. Anyone that could help me with this would be great Thank you in Advance --BlueMeep
first off...... you already burned to +R media..... you can't change anything..... it's done! burned and set! Only Re-Writable disks can be re-written on! so that ends that discussion about changing anything on those disk! sorry! Next... you are under the misconception about UDF and ISO: Universal Disk Format (UDF) is a file system format used on optical, recordable discs such as CD-R, CD-RW and various DVD formats. so it is a standard of writing to disk! DVD structure is one way. It has video title sets (files) that tell the player how to play the video on the DVD. Now an ISO file is an image file of a CD/DVD. It is made to make a whole DVD ... a copy..... so you burn ISO files (which is an exact duplicate of a CD/DVD). the difference of UDF is a format.... ISO is a file! they both have the same thing..... DVD Structure! soooooo by you thinking that if you change from UDF to ISO..... you're information is not correct! it's gibberish!~ they are both the same DVD structure, which is standard for a DVD! Now lets look at what you want. You want your player (a DivX player) to play standard DVDs. Read the manual.... can it play +R meida? Or -R media..... and in what format...... DivX is a file that is different than the Video_TS files of standard DVD format ..... it's AVI files. AVI files can keep quality of video with keeping the size in a small footprint.... another words you don't have to convert your AVI files to DVD standard structure files and burn to disk as a data DVD and your player will play the AVI files (which are DivX files) and you can cram more AVI files onto a DVD than standard DVD structure files. There's your difference! You are trying to play standard DVDs in a DivX player.... it should work because I'm sure that it will play both types of DVDs! It's the media that your player is having a hard time playing! The player doesn't like the type of media or the brand of media so it's not seeing the media properly!~ Now I don't have a DivX player so I can't tell you what it can do and what it cant' do... read the manual. See if it can play your +R media..... but this is the standard of why a player can't play certain types of media while other players can: there are plenty of reasons why certain dvds won't play in other players: 1. burning speeds: burn at 4x so there will be less writing errors (rule of thumb is to burn at half the rated speed of the disk--8X disk burn at 4x). 2. read manual for your stand alone player and use the disks that will play in your player. If your player is less than 2 yrs old then it should play the + or - R disks! I said SHOULD that's why you read the manual. 3. try booktyping your drive to DVd-ROM so it will make your +R disks more compatible to players. Read this: http://k-probe.com/bitsetting-booktype-faq.php 4. make sure that there are no finger prints or scratches on your disk that make it hard for the player to read the disk! 5. use good quality media (rule of thumb....buy the ones that are Made in Japan.) Verbatim is a top notch disk and is the only exception to this rule....some Verbatims are made in Taiwan and they are top notch! 6. and don't burn too close to the outer edge of the disk ..... which will make the disk unreadable! but using good media you will be able to burn close to the edge better than lesser quality media. Just in case I only burn no closer than 4400MB, so if you can set your programs to that, all the better! follow these little tips of the trade and you'll have better success! good luck.
Thank you for your time IHoe , I Understand all you said , I have read the manual about 5 times now cover to cover before I first posted here. The manual said that the Player plays all the formats (MP3 cds, Divx, Picture cds, DVD-R, DVD-RW, DVD+R, DVD+RW and so on). The brand of DVD im using is Maxell. The discs I burned in nero in ISO with Maxell all worked great. It all has to do with the UDF file system, I know this doesn't go with what you said, but its the only thing it could be. From what I have read, divx players are not that great when it comes to reading media as good as a computer dvd drive. Some computer drives that pre date Windows XP have lots of trouble reading the UDF format, again from what read i in fourms. The people that had these troubles with there disc in there disc drives needed a UDF reader installed to be able to play there disc in older systems, it seemed to help them in some cases but not all. Divx players, or at least mine, will not play any thing that was burned in the UDF file format because I guess it can't see or read the disc, that's my problem. I have a lot of discs that I burned off using the Sonic DLA and now I can't play them on the Divx stand alone player. I'm really trying to not have to reburn all these in Nero,it take so much time and dvds that it makes me sick 0_o I know and agree with what you said about not being able to burn any more to a DVD+R, BUT heres what I found out today, All the disc seem to be CLOSED not FINALIZED, Sonic DLA closed the disc, but didn't finalize them, meaning there can be data still written to them (Around 200MB for each disc I have or what ever space that wasen't used)I wrote some kind of data or finalized it in Nero (im not sure what it really did, it said it made the document type ISO and it burned something on to the disc)But after doing that it still don't play in my Divx player. Sadly, that might be all that I can do to these disc, but im hoping someone knows about this or has had this very rare problem too, its very confussing to me and i have been working with bitsettings and movie files and all that for over a year, I took months and study all about this stuff and thought I know all there was to know about disc and how to get the best out of them, then I bought a stand alone divx player and it all changed when none of my avi files played on it All in all, im prolly going to have to reburn all these discs..which I dread doing. It just seems like there would be some way I could fix these since it is possible to write more info to the disc and the disc is not finalized yet. Prolly Sonic DLA wrote all the files in the UDF file system, and what nero is doing is Finalizing it in ISO, making it a joint UDF+ISO, making it still unplayable in my Divx stand alone because it has some UDF in it. If anyone can add some more thoughts to this it would be great I want to get these disc working as soon as I can, I might just start reburning a few of them, but hopefully someone will help me before I get too many of the reburned. Thanks in advance! --BlueMeep
I sincerely believe it's your player and not the disks...... I told you about the compatibility issue that some disks have in players..... you can believe all that you want to ....... when you use Sonic DLA... that's packet writing software and sometimes it interferes with Nero burning a DVD! but if your DVD is already burned then it should play... if it doesn't you have a compatibility problems and it's not the format that you are trying to blame it on! look it up in the glossary section on top of this thread! UDF and ISO! two differnt animals...... ISO is a file that is an copy image ready for writing in UDF!!!! Stop talking gibberish. And this is not your problem! Now about your Sonic DLA...... it's packet writing software..... where you can drag and drop onto a disk! usually you have to format the disk in order to use DLA! correct..... well those disks are done. finito! I would get yourself a new player rather than redo all those disks. But to make sure........ take some of those disks and try it on other players and see if it works...... if it does...... it's your DivX player..... get a real player and stop fooling around! Why do you think that most people buy DVD players and not DivX players. years down the road you will wish that you burned your movies in DVD standard format because DivX will probably be incompatible with the newer DVD players like HD-DVD or Blu-ray DVDs! sooooooo either conform now and be happy in the future or just stick to that DivX player and hope that they become the norm in the future.... which I doubt.
Its the disks not the player. Dla has been known to not even work on other computers that dont have dla on them. Even sometimes when it does. Thats the reason at one point of packet writing development there was the ability to put the the packet writing reader app on the disks made with dla and such. I dont think that worked out to well either. About the player its not just a divx player but a dvd player that supports playing divx. I would not trade the philips I own for anything myself. Mine is registered with divx online for playback of vod. Back to the problem with your disks. What is going on here is the dla you used at the time clased the session on the disk but left the disk open for later use. If you do anything else on the disks it then is a multisession disk. Thats another problem completely. If you want to keep the videos and have them play in the player you will have to redo them.
It is the discs not the player. Stick with ISO/Joliet. This problem has been discussed on Video.Help.com forum. I have four Philips models 642,5100,3380 and 5965 and have had no problems. If your burner came with Nero Express burning your AVIs is a no-brainer(default is ISO). CopyToDvd is also good but I believe DiscJuggler creates a UDF/ISO hybrid by default.
Thank you very much for your help whompus and KiwiKid I was thinking it was the discs and not the player also. I guess im going to just reburn all the disc, I already did a few of them and I prolly will work on them on and off for the rest of the month till they are all working on the player. Sonic software is what came with my computer and I been using it for years now, been hearing about Nero forever and never wanted to go out in buy it till a few weeks ago when some one said I should try burning some discs using it. Nero is simply the best software for all things disc related, I been very happy with it Sonic feels cheap and a pain in the ass compared to all Nero has to offer (I Know theres a feature somewhere in sonic to switch between ISO and UDF but thats just one of many things I have found clumsy with Sonic) Anyway, I think I got my question answered and I can move on, unless anyone else has something new to add. Thank you all for your help
