Burned DVD with NeroVision won't work

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  1. cdmjr

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    Hello, all. I am trying to burn an AVI file into a Video DVD with Nero Vision 4. I go through everything, and burn the disc, but it won't play on my home DVD player. Normally I use my xbox 360 as my dvd player of choice, but this also doesn't work on my Playstation 2, which has always been reliable for burned DVDs, or my Philips DVP player (which I rarely use anyway). Normally I would think there was a software problem, or a problem with a disc, but I did manage to get one AVI file onto a Video DVD and make it play on my PS2 (just not on the 360...which I can live with). These discs do play on my computer.

    I'm coastering discs at an irritating rate here, so any help would be great. One thing I tried was to take two AVI files and put them on one disc, which worked because it also played on my PC, but not on the PS2 or 360. At one point, when I tried the two files in one DVD, it gave me a message about the data being more PAL than NTSC, or something, so I figured that this might have been the problem in the first place. It wasn't.

    With the one disc that worked, I had it convert from AVI and burn at once, but I also did that with the first disc that didn't work (that first disc didn't work on my PC, I should note). With the two-in-one disc, I created the IFO files, which I converted to ISO, which I burned with DVDDecrypter. That didn't work.

    I've burned DVDs forever, but this is my first experience with taking an AVI file and burning it to DVD, so I'm pretty unsure about things. I'll be happy to answer any questions. Looking back at my post, it seems confusing, so please ask questions to help me figure this out, before I waste any more DVDs. Thanks!
     
  2. IHoe

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    you seem to talk all about your burning....... never looking at the disk that you burn to! It's called quality & compatibility. Quality is the disk that you use. If you use inferior cheap disks don't expect it to be compatible with your players..... they may play the disk a few times but because it's cheap, of no quality, it will eventually not work at all! here are some more explanations:

    there are plenty of reasons why certain media brands won't play in other players:

    1. burning speeds: burn at 4x so there will be less writing errors (rule of thumb is to burn at half the rated speed of the disk--8X disk burn at 4x).
    2. read manual for your stand alone player and use the disks that will play in your player. If your player is less than 2 yrs old then it should play the + or - R disks! I said SHOULD that's why you read the manual.
    3. try booktyping your drive to DVd-ROM so it will make your +R disks more compatible to players. Read this:
    http://k-probe.com/bitsetting-booktype-faq.php
    4. make sure that there are no finger prints or scratches on your disk that make it hard for the player to read the disk!
    *******5. use good quality media (rule of thumb....buy the ones that are Made in Japan.)Taiyo Yuden is the only brand I use! Verbatim is also top notch disk and is the only exception to this rule....some Verbatims are made in Taiwan and they are top notch! Using quality media that is most recognized by players/recorders stop MANY problems like the ones you are getting!
    6. and don't burn too close to the outer edge of the disk ..... which will make the disk unreadable! but using good media you will be able to burn close to the edge better than lesser quality media. Just in case I only burn no closer than 4400MB, so if you can set your programs to that, all the better!

    follow these little tips of the trade and you'll have better success! good luck.

    also read this:
    http://www.cdfreaks.com/reviews/Why-DVDRW-is-superior-to-DVD-RW/
    why the +R media is better than the -R media.
     
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    These are Maxell DVDs which have never given me issue before. I'm not sure whether they're -R or +R, because they're the kind with the completely blank cover, and no wrapper around the package, (plus they were a gift). Neither my burner nor my xbox 360 or my PS2 have ever had problems differentiating between -R or +R DVDs when it comes to playing quality. I will take your advice on BookTyping, as well as lowering the size I burn and the speed I use. Thanks.
     
  4. IHoe

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    http://dvd.identifier.cdfreaks.com/
    go to this web page and download the free program called DVDIdentifier. Insert your DVD in your burner.... choose your burner for the drive and then hit IDENTIFY..... it will tell you the manufacturer of the disk in your drive!

    here is a media guide for you:
    http://www.digitalfaq.com/media/dvdmedia.htm
    the best media for quality and compatibility is Taiyo Yuden.... then Verbatim. I only use Taiyo Yuden and all my burns work in all players from mine to my families to my friends. Never a compatibility problem due to it's quality and most notable writing strategies for all burners! Now I'm talking about the 8x Taiyo Yudens..... not the 16x Taiyo Yudens which do have some issues with some players but not many at all. the Maxells that I used before I became a strict Taiyo Yuden fan did ok but did have some issues with my friends player. So after a spindle or two of the Maxells I switched to Taiyo Yuden and never looked back. The Maxell brand can be made by Maxell, Taiyo Yuden, Ritek, Ricoh.... which are very good manufacturers but if you got ones that were made by CMC MAGs or Prodisc then you got crappy media that can give you the problems that you are seeing now. In a spindle of disks there can be 2-3 or even 4 different manufacturers of the Maxell brand and that's why:
    and now you do have an issue! It's compatibility! Why do you think that you have no problem watching your burned disks from your computer? It's because your computer can read what is burned from it's burner! But your players are having trouble!!!! now if your players also burned your disk it would be able to read it, too. just know that even a spindle of disks can be made by different manufactures with different standards for the same brand! Buying Tiayo Yuden (the best around) or Verbatim-made in Japan or Taiwan- cost no more than the disks you buy in the stores. the only difference is that you have to wait for shipping..... and actuality they cost cheaper because now you're coastering discs at an irritating rate and it will cost you to do it all over again! If you start with the best media I'm telling you that you won't have this problem. But you can keep going on what you're doing and hopefully, with some luck, you'll start doing ok again. Good luck to you.
     
  5. cdmjr

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    So I guess this response means that there is absolutely NOTHING wrong with the way I'm burning, or the program, or the settings, or anything? The absolutely only thing that could possibly be wrong is the discs. The disc that I burned the AVI file with correctly was from this very same spindle.

    Is there anything I could do besides buying these special DVDs?
     
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    Even the disc that plays perfectly on my computer won't let me Decrypt with DVDDecrypter, so there's something wrong beyond just the disc.
     
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    I don't know ...... I must be talking to myself! first off I did ask you to identify your disk for me:
    then I told you about cheap disks:
    I guess that the spindle has many different manufacturers.
    And lastly.... cheap disks don't last. So one day they work..... and down the road they don't! And that's why:
    so you can blame EVERYTHING else but what the real problem is:
    The cheap disks you use. not all Maxells are bad! That's why I wanted to see what your manufacturer was by using DVDIdentifier (a free program!). And another thing is what burner do you have..... make, model, and manufacturer! You could need just a firmware update.... but more likely you just need better media. so here's your choices.... keep coastering discs or just with a little effort.... identify your media, make and model of your burner, and even try out Taiyo Yuden or Verbatim disks. Good luck with you.
     

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