Burning AVI Files

I spoke about this with Binkie but I believe I am totally confused.

So if I downloaded an avi file. begin with the basics.

I do have Nero. I don't know what transcoding is and I don't think Nero can do it right. and I don't know which files need it. I don't think mpegs need it because the ones burned by my tuner card can be burned directly with Nero.

Now I therefore transcoded it and made DVD files (is that what that is doing) with DVD Flick, it burned the image as well. It did play in my cheap player but not in my better Denon. and my DVD-R's are of type Memorex.

Now since it would not play in the preferred , good one, I tried to burn to dvd files with Nero, it still would only play in the above given dvd players.

Is that because I had transcoded it with DVD Flix. Is it because of the Memorex DVD's, or should I try burning the image with my third and last program I have, ImageBurn. Do you think that will burn it in a way capable of being played on the Denon.

Thank You so much. In Particular, Bink if you end up helping me with this program burn again. My confusion level is just not letting me get it. I am hoping you say, no, it is not you, it is the wrong programs.

Take Care All
Eric H

 

you all sound good except the MEMOSUKS!

get some TY or VERBATIM dvdrs

 

ahhh Rotary thanks sort of except I can't get it to play now. So I understand transcoding, i.e. make dvd file. And I have tried it on both dvd players and it could be either the dvds (if I get better ones, no guarantee on your part but it may work) or it could be that as pointed out in an earlier post, sometimes the cheaper ones play more.

Is that what I have correct what I stated above.

thanks to you. you slipped right in where Bink left off

thanks for understanding me. I can be confusing because of my racing mind but you did not make me feel bad and I thank you for that

Eric

 

yeah cheap dvd players tend to play most stuff

expensive are very picky indeed...

but verbatim are the dogs nutts, i quietly confident, its your best shot.

your procedure is good, and yuor knowledge is getting there

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but for avi to dvd i would use convertxtodvd my chioce over nero.

 

I have also found cheap dvd players to be more compatible. It could very well be the disks. Try slapping some jpgs or some mp3s onto your blanks. If the denon plays them, you can eliminate media as the source of your problem. if that is the case(plays mp3 from memo), then dvd authoring is probably your issue. True "dvd compliance" requires many things.
-audio must be ac3 or pcm
-1gb vobs
-volume label
-minimum size (dont remember what size tho)
-need bup files
I'm sure there is more. Try a program called The film machine. I've been using it for quite some time now(at least 100 dvds) and it seems to be quite compatible. Also, its free. please donate if you like it. Its not a transcoder, it uses avisynth(among other things) and re-encodes. The audio/video quality is very high. but use cce encoder if you can get it.

 

im a TFM/CCE user awesome proggy

years now, also chuck your dvdr into dvd shrink found this a great app to for checking structure is correct!
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answer from PM (private message)

Transcoding

Transcoding usually refers to compressed domain transcoding. This is the method used by programs like DVD Shrink and CloneDVD to compress DVD video. Technically transcoding means starting with encoded video and encoding it again. In other words, once the video is stored digitally, encoding to another format, or even re-encoding to the same format is transcoding.

 

dont the transcoders just compress b frames? I cant say i've broken down the code or anything(not smart enough). but there is a clear difference between the "transcoders", and decompression/reencode. to me, cce is, by a long shot, the most accurate mpeg2 encoder.
I actually donated to the tfm guy(and i'm poor). I used to spend hours on slow ass computers doing the same stuff manually. only, at first i didn't know about avi synth. i would use vfapi, dvd2avi,virtualdub, cce, pulldown, dvd maestro, etc... 'twas quite a project...

 

Phil , I got The Film Machine per your recommendation

Rotary or Phil or anyone, can you tell me what, or the better thing to tell me is actually where is the Cinema Craft Encoder. I have to point some folder to it.

thx
Eric

 

CCE is a separate program you need to pay for... but you can use TFM's built in encoders, which you will see as you go through the wizard
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with dvd shrink place your finished burnt dvd in it and if dvd shrink loads it ok, then theres not much wrong with it, just for testing purposes...
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dont worry too much working out what all the words mean, aslong as you get the file to dvd and it works then kool, whats in a name...
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mpegs can be mpeg2 dvd compliant so no converting needed, but to work as dvd then need to be changed from mpeg2 to VOB/IFO/BUP (a dvd)
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i use dvd shrink (the maker of dvd shrink made nero recode) very simarlar apps, just slightly different layout in each. if you use nero v6 or v7 there is a hack to make recode like dvd shrink quailty, but not for nero v8 (yet?)
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nero recode doesnt make avi to dvd, but it can load as data. i think extra on a already made dvd so to speak (not much use in it really)

 

so rotary I think i understand everything except, we need to jump way back, my cunfusion level is way up, the mpegs from my hauppauge tuner card do work when burned in Nero and you said mpegs don't need to be encoded (transcoded) but they do need to be done something to get to be dvd playable. therefore these files must already be mpeg2 and I just don't know it. am I understanding that right?

thanks

 

correct