Burning DL DVD+Rs

I’m so excited!

After countless failed attempts, I have finally managed to successfully burn DL DVD+Rs! I still can’t believe it’s actually worked!

My success was the result of reading the various comments on this site, and incorporating all the recommendations, suggestions and tips provided.

So, I just want to say a huge THANK YOU to everybody for all your contributions!

Today I am one happy chappy!

 

congrats! and may you have continued success with dvd+r DLs~

AD is a great place to learn the "hows" to burning...

docTY~

 

Good job! DL's rock. Just make sure you use the Verbs!

 

Hi there,

I have never burned a Dual Layer media yet, I think they are still too expensive (Personal Opinion).

But here's a few rules I have learned and I will follow when I do try:

1- Install the latest firmware on your burner.

2- Buy Verbatim DVD+R DL Media
DVD-R DL are still causing issues since they are pretty new and not all drives support them, even with the latest firmware.

3- Do not burn at MAX speed.

4- If you are going to burn a DL .ISO(.mds) burn with DVD Decrypter and/or Image Burn and load the .MDS not the .ISO
The .MDS has the Layer Break information, and should help creating a smooth DL burn.

5- Pop a bag of PopCorn and get ready to watch you movie on a DL media

Any other rules apply to DL media ?

 

>>>> Any other rules apply to DL media ? <<<

I think you mostly covered them. I can only think of the following, some of which are merely strong advice for ANY burning habits...

-No multi-tasking. Especially during the burn. I have had only one coaster on a dual layer disc, and it occurred because my wife asked me to look something up on the web while a burn was in progress, and against my better judgement, I took this chance. The site I ended up at had a Flash video introduction, and while it was loading, my disc was suddenly ejected in mid-burn, followed by a error message from DVDDecrypter. I do not advise multi-tasking during burning at any time, but keep in mind that the economics become a bit more important when you have paid $2.00 or $3.00 or even more for a disc.

-Burn slow. The advice above (which is terrific, and which I have used for more than 50 successful burns) advises not to burn at "maximum." I would go one step further. I have used 2.4X for all of my dual layer burns, and I am NOT willing to run the risk of "upping the speed" until those dual layer discs are a lot less expensive. Thus, in my own opinion, I advise to "burn only at 2.4X, no matter what the label says."

Great advice, and it never hurts to collect the wisdom of a successful methodology all in one concise post. Thanks.

-Bruce

 

Gemmster, Can you explain process that you followed to burn DL DVDs?

thanks!!

 

safari2000:

I am willing to post my own methodology, for what it is worth. It may not be the same as the one you were asking for, but it has only yielded one coaster in more than 50 burns.

If you are trying to back up a commercial DVD that you have purchased onto a dual layer blank, safely, with no additional compression, and with the layer break, follow these steps:

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Remove all discs from drives.

Open DVD Decrypter (make certain it is the most recent, final version. Make certain all settings are at the original "default" settings. There is only one exception, here. You may wish to set the "booktyping" on the discs. This is permissable.).


From the 'Mode' menu, select 'ISO' -> 'Read'.

Put the commercial DVD-9 disc which you own in the drive.

Take note of the 'Destination' file name.

Click the big 'Decrypt' button.

Wait. When that process has completed, take the DVD-9 original disc out of the drive.

From the 'Mode' menu, select 'ISO' -> 'Write'.

Put a new blank dual layer Verbatim DVD+R disc into your DVD burner.

Click the little folder icon - 'Browse for source file' - and select the .mds file created for you as part of the steps above.

Click the big 'Write' button.

Wait.

Finished.

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A few reminders (all of which have been mentioned above):

-Make certain your burner is capable of burning dual layer media.
-Make certain your burner has the latest firmware upgrade.
-Use only Verbatim DVD+R dual layer discs.
-Burn slowly, at 2.4X.
-Do not try to multitask while burning.
-Check first to make certain your DVD player (or players) are actually able to play DVD+R dual layer burned media. Not all of them are.
-Do not use stick-on labels on the DVDs.
-In fact, follow all of the normal guidelines for successful burning.

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Hope this is of some help to someone,

-Bruce

 

Thank you, Bruce999.

How about the dvds having newer encryptions (like King Kong).

Don't you think I need to process through DVDFab Decrypter to remove the encryption, and then if i follow your steps, will it work.

Any help will be appreciated.

 

Hi there,

SlySoft AnyDVD will remove most/all new encryption.

It's worth every $$$

http://www.slysoft.com/en/anydvd.html

 

@safari200,

KK has nothing special to it,,shrink will do it it's self,or DVDD

 

Hello All.

I posted awhile back (maybe month or two ago) with problems I was having while trying to burn to DVD+R DL. I'll skip all of the details, but summarize by saying that I still can't get it to work without A.) having problems writing the lead-in on the disks, or B.) write address failures.

I did manage to get (what I thought was going to be) 2 succesful burns using Imgburn 1.3.0.0 last week, until I put them into my Sony DVP-NS975V and it gave a 'cannot play disc' for both discs. I checked the Imgburn log (luckily I saved it) and this is what it said...

I 17:24:06 ImgBurn Version 1.3.0.0 started!
I 17:24:06 Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition (5.1, Build 2600 : Service Pack 2)
I 17:24:06 Initialising SPTI...
I 17:24:06 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices...
I 17:24:06 Found 1 DVD-ROM/CD-RW and 1 DVD±RW!
I 17:24:21 Operation Started!
I 17:24:21 Source File: F:\DW_DISC_3.MDS
I 17:24:21 Source File Sectors: 3,926,317 (MODE1/2048)
I 17:24:21 Source File Size: 8,041,097,216 bytes
I 17:24:21 Source File Volume Identifier: DW_DISC_3
I 17:24:21 Source File Implementation Identifier: Spruce Technologies
I 17:24:21 Source File UDF Revision: 1.02
I 17:24:21 Destination Device: [0:0:0] SONY DVD RW DRU-810A 2.0d (H (USB)
I 17:24:21 Destination Media Type: DVD+R DL (Disc ID: MKM-001-00) (Speeds: 2.4x, 4x, 8x)
I 17:24:21 Destination Media Sectors: 4,173,824
I 17:24:21 Write Mode: DVD
I 17:24:21 Write Type: DAO
I 17:24:21 Write Speed: 2.4x
I 17:24:21 Link Size: Auto
I 17:24:21 Test Mode: No
I 17:24:21 BURN-Proof: Enabled
I 17:24:21 Optimal L0 Data Zone Capacity: 2,063,088
I 17:24:21 Optimal L0 Data Zone Method: Copied From Original Disc
I 17:24:21 Filling Buffer...
I 17:24:23 Writing LeadIn...
I 17:24:25 Writing Image...
I 17:24:25 Writing Layer 0... (LBA: 0 - 2063087)
I 17:45:36 Writing Layer 1... (LBA: 2063088 - 3926316)
I 18:04:39 Synchronising Cache...
I 18:04:40 Closing Track...
I 18:04:41 Finalising Disc...
I 18:08:10 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:43:48
I 18:08:10 Average Write Rate: 3,254 KB/s (2.3x) - Maximum Write Rate: 3,391 KB/s (2.4x)
I 18:08:10 Cycling Tray before Verify...
W 18:08:21 Waiting for device to become ready...
I 18:08:34 Device Ready!
I 18:08:34 Operation Started!
I 18:08:34 Source Device: [0:0:0] SONY DVD RW DRU-810A 2.0d (H (USB)
I 18:08:34 Source Media Type: DVD+R DL (Book Type: DVD+R DL) (Disc ID: MKM-001-00) (Speeds: 2.4x, 4x, 8x)
I 18:08:34 Image File: F:\DW_DISC_3.MDS
I 18:08:34 Image File Sectors: 3,926,317 (MODE1/2048)
I 18:08:34 Image File Size: 8,041,097,216 bytes
I 18:08:34 Image File Volume Identifier: DW_DISC_3
I 18:08:34 Image File Implementation Identifier: Spruce Technologies
I 18:08:34 Image File UDF Revision: 1.02
I 18:08:34 Verifying Sectors...
E 18:08:43 Failed to read Sector 0 - Logical Block Address out of Range
E 18:08:43 Failed to Verify Sectors!
E 18:08:43 Operation Failed! - Duration: 00:00:08
I 18:08:43 Average Verify Rate: N/A - Maximum Verify Rate: N/A

Not being an expert with this, it looks as though the booktype did NOT change to DVD-ROM, like I specified before I clicked on the 'write' icon in Imgburn. Any thoughts? Ideas? I'm positive that I changed it beforehand.

By the way, this was done using my Toshiba Satellite laptop, Sony DRX-810UL (external) and Iomega external HD.

I just checked for new versions of firmware for my drives and noticed there is new firmware for the DRU-810A (1.0e) and DRU-810UL (2.0e). My next question is, which one is right? Both are rebadged Benq 1640DWs, so I'm confused as to which one to use? Maybe I used the incorrect FW last time I reflashed the drive and that's what's causing my failures when I try to burn DL DVDs???

BTW, I am using Verbatim DL disks and burning at 2.4x. The odd thing is, is that I've gotten a 'few' burns to work... here and there. It still puzzles me as to why I cannot make consistent DL burns.

Any info. on the firmware versions for the 810UL would be appreciated. Thanks.

Gregg

 

@GREGG,

have you tryed DVD Decrypter to burn your DL's

I use DVDD with all my DL + VERBS, it handles the layer break
very well i have had no problems using it on 20 now burns......

 

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daman1,

Yes, I have tried DVD Decrypter to burn DLs... and that's where I usually have my problems. I thought I'd try it again using Imgburn, since that program is still being updated, figuring maybe a 'bug' or something was fixed that pertained to my system/setup etc.

I'm going to try putting the latest firmware (still need someone to clarify which to use) on my 810UL external and see what that does.

I've tried everything under the sun and still can't get some consistency when doing DL burns. Frustrating indeed.

Thanks to all for suggestions/ideas in advance.

Gregg

 

Hi there,

http://www.sonyisstorage.com/bv_downloads/cpce/dvd/810UL_2.0e.EXE

Firmware v2.0[bold]e[/bold] for the Sony 810UL

It might help !

 

There ya go Gregg,,keep us posted

 

Thanks for the help guys, I'll try the latest FW (v2.0e) tonight and let you know how it goes tomorrow.

Much appreciated!

Gregg

 

One more thing real quick... what's the best way to 'reflash' a drive? Is there a preferred method? Just wondering.

I believe I reflashed my 810UL (with 2.0d) last time using DVD Decrypter, which was quite a while ago. Everything seemed to go ok, but maybe something happened that contributed to the burning failures???

Thoughts/comments/ideas... please don't hesitate to let me know.

Thanks again!

Gregg

 

If i remember right,,, just follow the instructions....)

mabie sombody with a better awnswer will come along lol )

 

The instructions in DVD Decrypter???