Burning DVD9 a how to question?

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  1. Nigelman

    Nigelman Member

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    Hey guys I've just joined this forum and it's great!

    Ok so my question is I have a huge 7.6/8.0 gig movie I need to burn so my question is obvious........how do I do it? I use DVD decrypter and have a dual layered burner so will this be ok? I assume I just insert my DVD disc, selcet the movie and burn right? I just want to make sure because the DVD's here in Japan are like 12-13 bucks each so I want to make sure it goes smoooooooooooth.

    Thanks in advance,

    Nigel
     
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  2. Rotary

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    hi

    use iso read then iso write, dont forget to make a MDS file too and load the mds on wite! it carries the layer break info!
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    comaptibilty on discs / players is a big one!
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    also avi2dvd on main movie only will shrink to fit a dvdr with good quailty its a beta app...

    dvd shrink with deep analysis will shrink it to dvdr5 size

    dvdr5 discs are more compatible (USEING DECENT MEDIA OF COURSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
     
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  3. alkohol

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    @Nigelman,

    As for any newbies or starter, I would say get DVD Shrink (free) along with DVD Decrypter, which you already had. Yes, DVD Shrink can shrink any DVD9 to fit on a DVD5 disc perfectly. To answer your question: "how do I do it? I use DVD decrypter and have a dual layered burner so will this be ok? I assume I just insert my DVD disc, selcet the movie and burn right?" No, you can't do that alone with DVD Decrypter, you will need another program such as Nero Recode 2 (retail) or DVD Shrink(free) to shrink or compress your original dvd movie, then you can use DVD Decrypter to back it up. Unless, you want to do a DVD9 to a DVD9, then yes.... you can pop in your original dvd into your drive (MODE, ISO, READ R), let DVD Decrypter "read" and "decrypt" the code first, then you can back up afterward (MODE, ISO, WRITE). DVD Decrypter is use for "decrypting" dvd movies with protection codes (which mostly are new arrival dvds) and it is for"backing up/burning" an already "decrypted" movie from your hard drive only.

    Here is a simple and basic steps to back up DVD movie, using DVD Decrypter and DVD Shrink on a DVD5 disc(single layer), assuming you already have the latest from Decrypter & Shrink:

    ** put blank dvd (please use good media such as Fuji/Taiyo Yuden, Verbatim, Maxell or Sony) in dvd burner
    ** put original dvd in dvd rom
    ** open up your c: drive or hard drive, go to NEW, Folder, name it “NEWBACKUPMOVIE” or anything you want, then hit [enter] to save the Folder, then EXIT

    ** open up DVD Decrypter, go to MODE, ISO, READ R
    ** choose your SOURCE <-- your dvd rom with Original movie
    ** choose your Destination <-- browse to your hard drive with your newly created folder earlier; example:NEWBACKUPMOVIE, then click on OPEN, and SAVE
    ** now click on “DECRYPT”, wait until it's completed, and closed DVD Decrypter (this takes about 15 - 20 mins or depending on your computer specs)

    ** open up DVD Shrink, go to FILE, Open Disc Image, and browse to your ISO you created with DVD Decrypter (NEWBACKUPMOVIE) in your hard drive, and OPEN it
    ** DVD Shrink should do a quick Analysis now.... wait until it's completed
    ** NOTE: if you want super quality and just the main movie only without the extras and menu, then you can click on "Re-author" mode, click on "main title 1" and drag it to drop under the "DVD Structure", then click on BACKUP, and OK
    **NOTE: if you want to do a “CUSTOM” on a DVD-R/+R disc, set your CUSTOM to “4400MB” or to your desire, but don’t “exceed” a DVD-R/+R’s capacity, to do this, go to EDIT, then PREFERENCES, and set it up, then hit “OK” when you’re done.
    ** NOTE: if you want "Full Disc Backup" with better quality, then you should set the "quality settings" to “Maximum Sharpness” or to your desire

    ** click on BACKUP, on TARGET DEVICE, select “Backup Target to: ISO Image File and Burn with DVD Decrypter”, and on "select target image file": browse to your folder you created earlier “NEWBACKUPMOVIE” in your Hard Drive
    ** now hit “OK”, sit back, relax, go smoke, drink, or watch a movie on your TV, DVD Shrink will do the encoding, wait until it's completed (this takes anywhere from 20 - 35 mins depending on your computer specs)
    ** once Shrink is done, it should automatically back up with DVD Decrypter.
    ** that's it.... wait for Decrypter to finish the back up process and you're done (this takes about 7 - 10 mins depending on your computer specs).

    Hope this help you a little. Have fun burning!!!
     
  4. Rotary

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    hi

    dvd shrink can output a dvd9 size to iso for dvd decrypter to burn useing its burn engine...

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  5. Nigelman

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    So basically I can just insert the disk and burn it right? I don't want to compress the movie I want them as a whole with no editing to them. I'll tell you it's star wars and I don't want to compress, I want it unedited.

    do I use a dvd9 dvd to burn or a regular dvd?

    Thanks for all your help guys.........

    Nigelman
     
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  6. Rotary

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    hi

    as mentioned we have mentioned boths ways, but if it were me i would go dvdr5 and shrink it! dual layers can be very picky even with good discs!
     
  7. Nigelman

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    so they tend to screw up eh? Well if i do compress it what dvd should I use? The large 8.6 GB or the standard 4.7 GB disc?

    When I put in the disc with the movie this is what I get so far:
    HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GSA-4163B A101 (USB)
    Current Profile: DVD+R DL

    Disc Information:
    Status: Empty
    Erasable: No
    Free Sectors: 4,173,824
    Free Space: 8,547,991,552 bytes
    Free Time: 927:32:74 (MM:SS:FF)
    Supported Write Speeds: 2.4x, 4x

    DVD+R DL Boundary Information:
    L0 Data Zone Capacity: 2,086,912
    Changeable: Yes

    Physical Format Information (Last Recorded):
    Disc ID: RICOHJPN-D00-01
    Book Type: DVD-ROM
    Part Version: 1
    Disc Size: 120mm
    Maximum Read Rate: Not Specified
    Number of Layers: 2
    Track Path: Opposite Track Path (OTP)
    Linear Density: 0.293 um/bit
    Track Density: 0.74 um/track
    First Physical Sector of Data Area: 196,608
    Last Physical Sector of Data Area: 16,580,607
    Last Physical Sector in Layer 0: 2,283,519

    Nigelman
     
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  8. alkohol

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    @Nigelman,

    You're welcome.... It's your call, either to do a DVD5 or DVD9 back up. If you feel you don't want it to compress and encode, then you're more than happy to do a straight DVD9 to a DVD9 blank. However, you still need to "decrypt" the dvd movie into your hard drive first (this will crack/bypass any protection codes i.e. bad sectors or dummy files that was put onto the dvd movie), then you can back it up. Apparently, this is the safest and best method to go, if all you have is DVD Shrink and DVD Decrypter (yes.... it's one of the best protection code(s) cracker and it's "free"). Some other great protection/copyrighted crackers that needs to be enable on the background while backing up movies are AnyDVD (retail), DVDIdle Pro (retail), DVD Region+CSS Free (retail) and DVD43 (free). The choice is yours to make.

    Have fun burnings and remember to use good quality medias now.

     
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    Looks like a decent DVD+R DL to me. What brand is it do you know?
     
  10. Nigelman

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    ok it's done.......and it's works great!!! The dvd r was from Ricoh, I paid 1,200 yen which is about $13. these things aren't cheap but if it works than all is well. It seems DVD decrypter knew it was a doulbe layer disk so that's good to know. Like my friend told me make sure you turn off other things on your comp so nothing can interfear with your burn. Good advice really.

    This is a good topic for anyone who'll want info about burning double layer dvd's. I did a search before but not much came up so this is good for future users.

    Nigelman
     
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    @Nigelman,

    I'm glad you're able to make a successfully DVD9 backed up. Yes... I would, too, recommend you "not" to touch anything i.e. surf the net, or open any other programs while you're performing a "decrypting" and "backing up" process. Back to the media - I believe that mostly 99% of the dvd blank medias that says "MADE IN JAPAN" is more superior than any other places. Whatever you plan to back up in the future, just stay away from "Memorex" or any id code with "CMC" - this usually means "crap" and low quality junk.

    Happy burnings.....
     
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    hi

    too late but hey it worked! you can booktype +R to dvdrom (like -R) for better comaptibility

    well done!
     
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    @ Rotary

    Crap! I don't know how long I've used DVD Decrypter and then dvd shrink, but I have always just went with Easy CD Creator and burned the TS VIDEO & TS AUDIO files as a data disk to dvd. I didn't even check out my options with DVD Shrink. I didn't know you can set it to burn with DVD Decrypter after shrinking, I thought it only gave Nero ROM as an option. What a waste of time; I guess I'll be using that option now. Thanx a lot, and cheers to you.
     
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    hi

    no prob chap, we are all learning me too, that why i am here!

    any probs gis a shout!

    ;-])
     
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    I could have sworn that I read somewhere (maybe on this forum or someone's tutorial) that DVD9 discs had to be ripped through FILE MODE in DVD Decrypter. From the above posts, it sounds like you can rip through ISO MODE as well. In fact, I had ripped a couple of DVD9s before I got my burner with DVD Decrypter using ISO mode and they're sitting on my hard drive at a little more than 7 gig. What are the advantages and disadvantages of FILE MODE and ISO MODE? Is one better to use on a scratched disc?

    Thanks!
     
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    Dear alkohol.......i'm tomlomeo.....my grand children bought me a DVD DL burner....and i already have made 5 DVD DL coasters....nothing seems to work....Here's my project....perhaps it's impossible to do with DVD DLs.

    I was hoping that perhaps you could direct me to a site or someone who has much knowledge about burning DVD DLs....I can burn a DVD9 to a DVD9 disk with no problem whatsoever (DVD Shrink +Decrypter)....But my project is to burn 3 separate DVD5 movies onto a DVD DL... Can it be done???.....what programs???? DVD Shrink and Dcrypter does not work.. thank you in advance for you time......tom here
     
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    potentially 3 movies can go on a DL but things to note if you have say 3 films 7gig each thats 21 gig to compress to 8.5, 2 films at 14gig to 8.5 is still huge compression, see the picture building here?

    ok say you got 3x 3gig movies that should be ok...

    dvd shrink (after setting output size to DL 8.5) will compress and take 3 movies and output an iso for dvd decrpter to burn. (no menus / play 1 film after the other)

    ok so you say it wont work? why? any errors? what type discs are you useing? have you had good burns with same batch? lots of things to know here! have you had a good burn with these DL discs yet? as DL is less compatible than dvd5-R discs, it could be this? need more info
     
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    Alkaloid....as i mentioned above yes i have a DVD DL burner and using DVD +R DL disks.....and have had successful DVD DL burns making a DVD9 from a commercial DVD9..
    i do have the ability, for example, for putting 3 movies (from 3 separate commercial DVDs)and put on my HD, and then burn these 3 movies onto a DVD5 (over 5 hours)....with VHS quality...
    So.....what technique would you try for burning these onto a DVD DL (assuming under 7.2GB)??? that's the question.....what programs??? etc.As to error, below is a log i got:
    7/21/2005 11:12:29 PM info ********** Report session closed ***********
    7/21/2005 11:11:18 PM error Write failed
    7/21/2005 11:11:18 PM info Average speed x1.08 Reference x1 = 1385.00 kbps
    7/21/2005 11:11:18 PM info Total burning time 00:20:47.422
    7/21/2005 10:51:22 PM info Finalizing CD..
    7/21/2005 10:51:22 PM error WriteSector failed at sector 49120 (32) - Code 04 08 03 [HW error, Logical Unit Communication CRC error in ULTRA-DMA/32 (check cables ...)]
    7/21/2005 10:50:31 PM info Starting write buffer
    7/21/2005 10:50:31 PM info Starting to write...
    This log was gotten from program "CopyTo DVD". Yet, same program works for burning a DVD9 from a DVD9.....so the cables are fine!!!




    thanks again..........tomlomeo
     
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