I'm having real problems with Nero. I can copy from disk to disk, and I was even able to recode a dvd. However, when I try to burn simple mp3 files to cd, the software fails. I'm attaching the log. If anyone can help, I'd really appreciate it! I'm still very new at this. Thanks. Windows XP 5.1 IA32 WinAspi: File 'Wnaspi32.dll': Ver=4.71 (0001), size=45056 bytes, created 8/14/2002 4:03:36 PM ahead WinASPI: File 'C:\Program Files\Nero\Nero 7\Core\Wnaspi32.dll': Ver=2.0.1.74, size=164112 bytes, created 11/2/2004 12:54:32 PM NT-SPTI used Nero Version: 7.0.1.3 Internal Version: 7, 0, 1, 3 Recorder: <PLEXTOR DVDR PX-750A> Version: 1.01 - HA 1 TA 1 - 7.0.1.3 Adapter driver: <IDE> HA 1 Drive buffer : 1419kB Bus Type : via Inquiry data (1) -> ATAPI, detected: ? Connected to MMC as unknown drive with class-nr : 1 Drive is autodetected - recorder class: Std. MMC recorder CD-ROM: <HL-DT-ST DVD-ROM GDR8162B>Version: 0015 - HA 1 TA 0 - 7.0.1.3 Adapter driver: <IDE> HA 1 === Scsi-Device-Map === DiskPeripheral : IC35L060AVV207-0 atapi Port 0 ID 0 DMA: On CdRomPeripheral : HL-DT-ST DVD-ROM GDR8162B atapi Port 1 ID 0 DMA: On CdRomPeripheral : PLEXTOR DVDR PX-750A atapi Port 1 ID 1 DMA: Off === CDRom-Device-Map === HL-DT-ST DVD-ROM GDR8162B D: CDRom0 PLEXTOR DVDR PX-750A E: CDRom1 ======================= AutoRun : 1 Excluded drive IDs: WriteBufferSize: 83886080 (0) Byte ShowDrvBufStat : 0 BUFE : 0 Physical memory : 766MB (784880kB) Free physical memory: 396MB (405620kB) Memory in use : 48 % Uncached PFiles: 0x0 Use Inquiry : 1 Global Bus Type: default (0) Check supported media : Disabled (0) 6.9.2006 Audio CD 10:21:13 PM #1 CDADOC -1 File Cdadoc.cpp, Line 1507 Audio item log info: Audio document burn settings: ============================= Burn mode: DAO, CD Text: On, Cache disk or network files: No, Cache small files: No, Cache files smaller than 65536 bytes. Audio Multisession: No List of audio tracks: ===================== Track 01: Length: 03:29.29, Pause frames: 150, Filters: 0, Name: '04 Mary-Anne.wma'. Track 02: Length: 03:25.74, Pause frames: 150, Filters: 0, Name: '06 Heights.wma'. Track 03: Length: 03:23.31, Pause frames: 150, Filters: 0, Name: '10 How You Play the Game.wma'. Track 04: Length: 03:30.31, Pause frames: 150, Filters: 0, Name: '15 Keep Your Hat On Jenny.wma'. Track 05: Length: 03:29.47, Pause frames: 150, Filters: 0, Name: '19 The Worst Part of a Broken Heart.wma'. Track 06: Length: 02:49.37, Pause frames: 150, Filters: 0, Name: '03 Afterglow 61.wma'. Track 07: Length: 03:16.16, Pause frames: 150, Filters: 0, Name: '05 Build a Bridge.wma'. Track 08: Length: 03:41.05, Pause frames: 150, Filters: 0, Name: '01 Gideon.wma'. Track 09: Length: 08:48.05, Pause frames: 150, Filters: 0, Name: '10 Ain't Talkin'.wma'. Track 10: Length: 03:05.70, Pause frames: 150, Filters: 0, Name: '21 I Should Get Up.wma'. Track 11: Length: 04:13.39, Pause frames: 150, Filters: 0, Name: '09 H Gang.wma'. Track 12: Length: 04:44.31, Pause frames: 150, Filters: 0, Name: '02 O' Sailor.wma'. Track 13: Length: 03:37.45, Pause frames: 150, Filters: 0, Name: '04 Galaxies.wma'. Track 14: Length: 04:03.68, Pause frames: 150, Filters: 0, Name: '06 Pills for Sara.wma'. Track 15: Length: 03:41.61, Pause frames: 150, Filters: 0, Name: '08 Same In Any Language.wma'. Total size: 59:50.64 10:21:13 PM #2 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 3048 PLEXTOR DVDR PX-750A BURN-Proof activated 10:21:14 PM #3 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 525 ReadBuffer-Pipe got 81920KB of Memory 10:21:14 PM #4 Text 0 File Reader.cpp, Line 124 Reader running 10:21:14 PM #5 Text 0 File Writer.cpp, Line 113 Writer E: PLEXTOR DVDR PX-750A running 10:21:14 PM #6 Text 0 File AudioCompilationImpl.cpp, Line 842 DRM: StartDrmRecording(RealRec:1, ImageRec:0, Copies:1) DRM: Beginning burn process. 10:21:14 PM #7 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 3342 Turn on Disc-At-Once, using CD-R/RW media 10:21:14 PM #8 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 279 Last possible write address on media: 359845 ( 79:59.70) Last address to be written: 269163 ( 59:50.63) 10:21:14 PM #9 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 291 Write in overburning mode: NO (enabled: CD) 10:21:14 PM #10 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 2578 Recorder: PLEXTOR DVDR PX-750A 10:21:14 PM #11 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 458 >>> Protocol of DlgWaitCD activities: <<< ========================================= 10:21:14 PM #12 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 847 Setup items (after recorder preparation) 0: TRM_AUDIO_NOPRE (04 Mary-Anne.wma) 2 indices, index0 (150) not provided original disc pos #0 + 15704 (15704) = #15704/3:29.29 relocatable, disc pos for caching/writing not required/not required, no patch infos -> TRM_AUDIO_NOPRE, 2352, config 0, wanted index0 0 blocks, length 15704 blocks [E: PLEXTOR DVDR PX-750A] 1: TRM_AUDIO_NOPRE (06 Heights.wma) 2 indices, index0 (150) not provided original disc pos #0 + 15449 (15449) = #15449/3:25.74 relocatable, disc pos for caching/writing not required/not required, no patch infos -> TRM_AUDIO_NOPRE, 2352, config 0, wanted index0 0 blocks, length 15449 blocks [E: PLEXTOR DVDR PX-750A] 2: TRM_AUDIO_NOPRE (10 How You Play the Game.wma) 2 indices, index0 (150) not provided original disc pos #0 + 15256 (15256) = #15256/3:23.31 relocatable, disc pos for caching/writing not required/not required, no patch infos -> TRM_AUDIO_NOPRE, 2352, config 0, wanted index0 0 blocks, length 15256 blocks [E: PLEXTOR DVDR PX-750A] 3: TRM_AUDIO_NOPRE (15 Keep Your Hat On Jenny.wma) 2 indices, index0 (150) not provided original disc pos #0 + 15781 (15781) = #15781/3:30.31 relocatable, disc pos for caching/writing not required/not required, no patch infos -> TRM_AUDIO_NOPRE, 2352, config 0, wanted index0 0 blocks, length 15781 blocks [E: PLEXTOR DVDR PX-750A] 4: TRM_AUDIO_NOPRE (19 The Worst Part of a Broken Heart.wma) 2 indices, index0 (150) not provided original disc pos #0 + 15722 (15722) = #15722/3:29.47 relocatable, disc pos for caching/writing not required/not required, no patch infos -> TRM_AUDIO_NOPRE, 2352, config 0, wanted index0 0 blocks, length 15722 blocks [E: PLEXTOR DVDR PX-750A] 5: TRM_AUDIO_NOPRE (03 Afterglow 61.wma) 2 indices, index0 (150) not provided original disc pos #0 + 12712 (12712) = #12712/2:49.37 relocatable, disc pos for caching/writing not required/not required, no patch infos -> TRM_AUDIO_NOPRE, 2352, config 0, wanted index0 0 blocks, length 12712 blocks [E: PLEXTOR DVDR PX-750A] 6: TRM_AUDIO_NOPRE (05 Build a Bridge.wma) 2 indices, index0 (150) not provided original disc pos #0 + 14716 (14716) = #14716/3:16.16 relocatable, disc pos for caching/writing not required/not required, no patch infos -> TRM_AUDIO_NOPRE, 2352, config 0, wanted index0 0 blocks, length 14716 blocks [E: PLEXTOR DVDR PX-750A] 7: TRM_AUDIO_NOPRE (01 Gideon.wma) 2 indices, index0 (150) not provided original disc pos #0 + 16580 (16580) = #16580/3:41.5 relocatable, disc pos for caching/writing not required/not required, no patch infos -> TRM_AUDIO_NOPRE, 2352, config 0, wanted index0 0 blocks, length 16580 blocks [E: PLEXTOR DVDR PX-750A] 8: TRM_AUDIO_NOPRE (10 Ain't Talkin'.wma) 2 indices, index0 (150) not provided original disc pos #0 + 39605 (39605) = #39605/8:48.5 relocatable, disc pos for caching/writing not required/not required, no patch infos -> TRM_AUDIO_NOPRE, 2352, config 0, wanted index0 0 blocks, length 39605 blocks [E: PLEXTOR DVDR PX-750A] 9: TRM_AUDIO_NOPRE (21 I Should Get Up.wma) 2 indices, index0 (150) not provided original disc pos #0 + 13945 (13945) = #13945/3:5.70 relocatable, disc pos for caching/writing not required/not required, no patch infos -> TRM_AUDIO_NOPRE, 2352, config 0, wanted index0 0 blocks, length 13945 blocks [E: PLEXTOR DVDR PX-750A] 10: TRM_AUDIO_NOPRE (09 H Gang.wma) 2 indices, index0 (150) not provided original disc pos #0 + 19014 (19014) = #19014/4:13.39 relocatable, disc pos for caching/writing not required/not required, no patch infos -> TRM_AUDIO_NOPRE, 2352, config 0, wanted index0 0 blocks, length 19014 blocks [E: PLEXTOR DVDR PX-750A] 11: TRM_AUDIO_NOPRE (02 O' Sailor.wma) 2 indices, index0 (150) not provided original disc pos #0 + 21331 (21331) = #21331/4:44.31 relocatable, disc pos for caching/writing not required/not required, no patch infos -> TRM_AUDIO_NOPRE, 2352, config 0, wanted index0 0 blocks, length 21331 blocks [E: PLEXTOR DVDR PX-750A] 12: TRM_AUDIO_NOPRE (04 Galaxies.wma) 2 indices, index0 (150) not provided original disc pos #0 + 16320 (16320) = #16320/3:37.45 relocatable, disc pos for caching/writing not required/not required, no patch infos -> TRM_AUDIO_NOPRE, 2352, config 0, wanted index0 0 blocks, length 16320 blocks [E: PLEXTOR DVDR PX-750A] 13: TRM_AUDIO_NOPRE (06 Pills for Sara.wma) 2 indices, index0 (150) not provided original disc pos #0 + 18293 (18293) = #18293/4:3.68 relocatable, disc pos for caching/writing not required/not required, no patch infos -> TRM_AUDIO_NOPRE, 2352, config 0, wanted index0 0 blocks, length 18293 blocks [E: PLEXTOR DVDR PX-750A] 14: TRM_AUDIO_NOPRE (08 Same In Any Language.wma) 2 indices, index0 (150) not provided original disc pos #0 + 16636 (16636) = #16636/3:41.61 relocatable, disc pos for caching/writing not required/not required, no patch infos -> TRM_AUDIO_NOPRE, 2352, config 0, wanted index0 0 blocks, length 16636 blocks [E: PLEXTOR DVDR PX-750A] -------------------------------------------------------------- 10:21:14 PM #13 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 1059 Prepare recorder [E: PLEXTOR DVDR PX-750A] for write in CUE-sheet-DAO DAO infos: ========== MCN: " " TOCType: 0x00; Session Closed, disc fixated Tracks 1 to 15: 1: TRM_AUDIO_NOPRE, 2352/0x00, FilePos 0 352800 37288608, ISRC "" 2: TRM_AUDIO_NOPRE, 2352/0x00, FilePos 37288608 37641408 73977456, ISRC "" 3: TRM_AUDIO_NOPRE, 2352/0x00, FilePos 73977456 74330256 110212368, ISRC "" 4: TRM_AUDIO_NOPRE, 2352/0x00, FilePos 110212368 110565168 147682080, ISRC "" 5: TRM_AUDIO_NOPRE, 2352/0x00, FilePos 147682080 148034880 185013024, ISRC "" 6: TRM_AUDIO_NOPRE, 2352/0x00, FilePos 185013024 185365824 215264448, ISRC "" 7: TRM_AUDIO_NOPRE, 2352/0x00, FilePos 215264448 215617248 250229280, ISRC "" 8: TRM_AUDIO_NOPRE, 2352/0x00, FilePos 250229280 250582080 289578240, ISRC "" 9: TRM_AUDIO_NOPRE, 2352/0x00, FilePos 289578240 289931040 383082000, ISRC "" 10: TRM_AUDIO_NOPRE, 2352/0x00, FilePos 383082000 383434800 416233440, ISRC "" 11: TRM_AUDIO_NOPRE, 2352/0x00, FilePos 416233440 416586240 461307168, ISRC "" 12: TRM_AUDIO_NOPRE, 2352/0x00, FilePos 461307168 461659968 511830480, ISRC "" 13: TRM_AUDIO_NOPRE, 2352/0x00, FilePos 511830480 512183280 550567920, ISRC "" 14: TRM_AUDIO_NOPRE, 2352/0x00, FilePos 550567920 550920720 593945856, ISRC "" 15: TRM_AUDIO_NOPRE, 2352/0x00, FilePos 593945856 594298656 633426528, ISRC "" DAO layout: =========== __Start_|____Track_|_Idx_|_CtrlAdr_|_RecDep__________ -150 | lead-in | 0 | 0x01 | 0x00 -150 | 1 | 0 | 0x21 | 0x00 0 | 1 | 1 | 0x21 | 0x00 15704 | 2 | 0 | 0x21 | 0x00 15854 | 2 | 1 | 0x21 | 0x00 31303 | 3 | 0 | 0x21 | 0x00 31453 | 3 | 1 | 0x21 | 0x00 46709 | 4 | 0 | 0x21 | 0x00 46859 | 4 | 1 | 0x21 | 0x00 62640 | 5 | 0 | 0x21 | 0x00 62790 | 5 | 1 | 0x21 | 0x00 78512 | 6 | 0 | 0x21 | 0x00 78662 | 6 | 1 | 0x21 | 0x00 91374 | 7 | 0 | 0x21 | 0x00 91524 | 7 | 1 | 0x21 | 0x00 106240 | 8 | 0 | 0x21 | 0x00 106390 | 8 | 1 | 0x21 | 0x00 122970 | 9 | 0 | 0x21 | 0x00 123120 | 9 | 1 | 0x21 | 0x00 162725 | 10 | 0 | 0x21 | 0x00 162875 | 10 | 1 | 0x21 | 0x00 176820 | 11 | 0 | 0x21 | 0x00 176970 | 11 | 1 | 0x21 | 0x00 195984 | 12 | 0 | 0x21 | 0x00 196134 | 12 | 1 | 0x21 | 0x00 217465 | 13 | 0 | 0x21 | 0x00 217615 | 13 | 1 | 0x21 | 0x00 233935 | 14 | 0 | 0x21 | 0x00 234085 | 14 | 1 | 0x21 | 0x00 252378 | 15 | 0 | 0x21 | 0x00 252528 | 15 | 1 | 0x21 | 0x00 269164 | lead-out | 1 | 0x01 | 0x00 10:21:14 PM #14 Text 0 File SCSIPassThrough.cpp, Line 36 SPTILockVolume - completed successfully for FCTL_LOCK_VOLUME 10:21:14 PM #15 Phase 36 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1725 Burn process started at 8x (1,200 KB/s) 10:21:14 PM #16 SPTI -1189 File SCSIPassThrough.cpp, Line 323 E: CdRom1: SCSIStatus(x02) WinError(0) NeroError(-1189) Sense Key: 0x05 (KEY_ILLEGAL_REQUEST) Sense Code: 0x30 Sense Qual: 0x02 CDB Data: 0xAD 00 00 00 00 00 00 FF 40 00 00 00 Sense Area: 0x70 00 05 00 00 00 00 0A 00 00 00 00 30 02 Buffer x05467200: Len x4000 10:21:14 PM #17 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 2685 Verifying disc position of item 0 (relocatable, no disc pos, no patch infos, orig at #0): write at #0 10:21:14 PM #18 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 2685 Verifying disc position of item 1 (relocatable, no disc pos, no patch infos, orig at #0): write at #15854 10:21:14 PM #19 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 2685 Verifying disc position of item 2 (relocatable, no disc pos, no patch infos, orig at #0): write at #31453 10:21:14 PM #20 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 2685 Verifying disc position of item 3 (relocatable, no disc pos, no patch infos, orig at #0): write at #46859 10:21:14 PM #21 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 2685 Verifying disc position of item 4 (relocatable, no disc pos, no patch infos, orig at #0): write at #62790 10:21:14 PM #22 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 2685 Verifying disc position of item 5 (relocatable, no disc pos, no patch infos, orig at #0): write at #78662 10:21:14 PM #23 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 2685 Verifying disc position of item 6 (relocatable, no disc pos, no patch infos, orig at #0): write at #91524 10:21:14 PM #24 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 2685 Verifying disc position of item 7 (relocatable, no disc pos, no patch infos, orig at #0): write at #106390 10:21:14 PM #25 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 2685 Verifying disc position of item 8 (relocatable, no disc pos, no patch infos, orig at #0): write at #123120 10:21:14 PM #26 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 2685 Verifying disc position of item 9 (relocatable, no disc pos, no patch infos, orig at #0): write at #162875 10:21:14 PM #27 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 2685 Verifying disc position of item 10 (relocatable, no disc pos, no patch infos, orig at #0): write at #176970 10:21:14 PM #28 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 2685 Verifying disc position of item 11 (relocatable, no disc pos, no patch infos, orig at #0): write at #196134 10:21:14 PM #29 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 2685 Verifying disc position of item 12 (relocatable, no disc pos, no patch infos, orig at #0): write at #217615 10:21:14 PM #30 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 2685 Verifying disc position of item 13 (relocatable, no disc pos, no patch infos, orig at #0): write at #234085 10:21:14 PM #31 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 2685 Verifying disc position of item 14 (relocatable, no disc pos, no patch infos, orig at #0): write at #252528 10:21:14 PM #32 Text 0 File MMC.cpp, Line 16932 StartDAO : CD-Text - On 10:21:14 PM #33 Text 0 File MMC.cpp, Line 17165 CueData, Len=256 21 00 00 41 00 00 00 00 21 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 21 01 01 00 00 00 02 00 21 02 00 00 00 03 1f 1d 21 02 01 00 00 03 21 1d 21 03 00 00 00 06 3b 1c 21 03 01 00 00 07 01 1c 21 04 00 00 00 0a 18 3b 21 04 01 00 00 0a 1a 3b 21 05 00 00 00 0d 39 0f 21 05 01 00 00 0d 3b 0f 21 06 00 00 00 11 1c 3e 21 06 01 00 00 11 1e 3e 21 07 00 00 00 14 14 18 21 07 01 00 00 14 16 18 21 08 00 00 00 17 26 28 21 08 01 00 00 17 28 28 21 09 00 00 00 1b 15 2d 21 09 01 00 00 1b 17 2d 21 0a 00 00 00 24 0b 32 21 0a 01 00 00 24 0d 32 21 0b 00 00 00 27 13 2d 21 0b 01 00 00 27 15 2d 21 0c 00 00 00 2b 23 09 21 0c 01 00 00 2b 25 09 21 0d 00 00 00 30 15 28 21 0d 01 00 00 30 17 28 21 0e 00 00 00 34 01 0a 21 0e 01 00 00 34 03 0a 21 0f 00 00 00 38 07 03 21 0f 01 00 00 38 09 03 01 aa 01 01 00 3b 32 40 10:29:51 PM #34 SPTI -1013 File SCSIPassThrough.cpp, Line 323 E: CdRom1: SCSIStatus(x02) WinError(0) NeroError(-1013) Sense Key: 0x03 (KEY_MEDIUM_ERROR) Sense Code: 0x0C Sense Qual: 0x09 CDB Data: 0x2A 00 00 00 9D 75 00 00 1B 00 00 00 Sense Area: 0x70 00 03 00 00 00 00 0A 00 00 00 00 0C 09 Buffer x0e100000: Len xf810 0x13 CA A8 CA 4A CB F0 CE 86 D5 CD D9 38 DE 89 E4 0x2A E0 50 EA 42 E0 D7 EB 3E DC E2 E6 1B D1 45 DB 0x03 C9 8D D1 7B CA 9B CD 32 CC 27 C8 CA C9 80 BF 10:29:51 PM #35 CDR -1013 File Writer.cpp, Line 302 Buffer underrun E: PLEXTOR DVDR PX-750A 10:29:51 PM #36 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 228 all writers idle, stopping conversion 10:29:51 PM #37 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 222 conversion idle, stopping reader 10:29:56 PM #38 Phase 38 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1725 Burn process failed at 8x (1,200 KB/s) 10:29:56 PM #39 Text 0 File AudioCompilationImpl.cpp, Line 867 DRM: DRM burn session terminated. 10:29:56 PM #40 Text 0 File AudioCompilationImpl.cpp, Line 896 DRM: Closing entire DRM handling. Bye. Existing drivers: File 'Drivers\ADPU160M.SYS': Ver=v3.60a (Lab01_N(johnstra).010529-2218), size=101888 bytes, created 9/3/2002 12:26:59 PM File 'Drivers\ASPI32.SYS': Ver=4.71 (0001), size=17005 bytes, created 8/14/2002 4:03:36 PM Registry Keys: HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\WinLogon\AllocateCDROMs : 0 (Security Option)
>>>>... when I try to burn simple mp3 files to cd, the software fails. I see DRM in your log, that doesn't sound like simple mp3's more like protected ones.
Another thought: I ripped them off of a PASTE cd sampler, wanted to create another, Best of Paste out of the many I have. Is there a way to know whether a track is drm or not? Or do you just have to risk losing cdrs? What can you look out for? Which will copy and which won't? I've been going crazy working with my new Nero software, up long nights, banging my head against the wall. My wife says it's taking years off my life!
They are actually Windows Media Audio files, .wma. Don't know enough about them as I've never used the format. Microsoft is big on DRM (Digital Rights Management) so I assume this is the problem. Mp3's would have an .mp3 extension. I would suggest you stick with mp3's especially if you choose to rip your own to your hard drive. As a test you can download a few from here (legal stuff) then see if Nero will create an audio CD from them, it should. http://www.3hive.com/ Use Nero Express (make sure you choose the [CD-R/RW] option from the drop down), choose Music-> Audio CD and add the mp3's then burn them If you want to make mp3's on your drive get CDex. Take some time to set it up and choose the LAME encoder. Lower bitrates, say 128, will produce smaller files but with less sound quality, at 192 they sound pretty good. A VBR 128-320 setting will sound great. From the pull down in encoding choose -alt -preset -standard for near perfect sound. http://cdexos.sourceforge.net/index.html
Thanks a lot! So I'm still putting this together; when I rip a cd into Windows Media Player it's a wma file. How does an mp3 file get created or can a wma be converted into an mp3? Should it? And what's a cda? There's so much to know. I'm trying to understand the logic of all this. I'm not a techie and don't tend to think like one. I'm learning, though. Slowly. I haven't downloaded music, since I was nervous about viruses, etc. I'd like to try it, since I'm missing out on a lot. When I get home from work, I will try your suggestions. Thanks again! You've been very helpful and patient.