Calm and Quiet, Peaceful Console Debate Thread.

"so incorperation of the cell and rsx together as the console gets a bit older could increase the graphics past the 360 to a more noticable degree."

lol, good old anubis, you still got so much belief in the ps3. i have to say i am impressed after e3 with a few games like assasins creed (now also coming to xbox 360), mgs4 and heavely sword, but i am yet to see this giant leap that cell will help the rsx deliver in graphics over the xbox 360.

"I think $250 is cutting it a little too close to the $300 xbox 360 price."

yeah 250 is a little risky, but i want to know how much it will cost in the UK, if i had to gues the price for uk i would say around 150 - 200. if it is 150 then i will buy it on the first day, but i do not have 200 to spend just like that, especially when i could be spending it on 4 xbox 360 games.

 

2 days sfter the Ps3 launch tho......sigh........i hope they have a great showing at tgs
cuz the wii is exactly half the price o the cheap ps3....
has a nice line up of games
toshiba is realesin their second wave of blue-ray players
sigh.....

 

Toshiba?
BluRay players?

 

my bad i meant thier new hd-dvd players........just saying that they hav an uphill battle..........more like up the friggin alps battle....ah well we'll see

 

@fninja.
banned again? how come? and i remember reading of in in a long article about the differences in the hardware of the two consoles. i also found a reference link for you.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=108593.

 

Toshiba has an uphill battle or Sony? Because if you take a look around, HD-DVD is doing quite alright.

 

Yes your right oofrome.

Its early stages right now but as i understand it HD-DVD is ahead of Blueray and news just in, Toshiba have created a HD-DVD that contains a third layer which is normal DVD. So when you go out to buy the movie you can buy the one disc and play it in a normal DVD playe becuase of the third layer or a HD-DVD player.

 

i read accually the bluray and hd-dvd installation base and fan base is roughtly equal, and it could be a few years untill a reall winner is seen. its well too early.

 

lol i think i should double check my posts to avoid confusion, ah well , i'll do it from now on
yeah, i was saying sony has an uphill battle
with toshiba releasing their new players, and the new triple layer disc, along with the 'Wii" being launched 2 days after the ps3, with $50 dollar games....
yup they have a real battle.......
still rooting for them tho

 

the wii is $250, seems more logical to see an increase in 360 sales as the older crowd may say, wtf its only $50 more.....the 360 has a lot more to offer than the wii, namely games developed for adults 17 yrs or older. not to mention the ps2 is quite a bit cheaper than the wii and has more funcionality than the wii. $50/game is a bit high for nintendo

 

wait... what?

 

yeah, that kinda lost me there...how dows the ps2 have more functionality......maybe u meant ps3..but thenu sed the "ps2 is quite a but cheaper"........yup...lost

 

yeah common, i know the wii is not as powerfull as the ps3 or xbox 360, but the wii has a lot more to give as you all know (the controller, being able to play all the old games, the price), not to mention many gaming websites such as ign, rated mario world above all ps3 games, and nearly all xbox 360 games apart from a couple, and they also said the wii not only had the best confrence but that it came off best from e3, now all you have to do is shrug of that fanboyness (that we all have, not just ps3 fans) and start to listen (not follow) to people who have already played with all three consoles.

 

probably should have clarified what i was referring to earlier. the ps2 today i beleive retails for $130 and the wii will retail for $250, thus the ps2 is cheaper than the wii, and i won't even compare accessories.(some of the wii accossories are pretty costly IMO)

now when i said functionality earlier i was not talking about innovation and the intended use of the wii controller, but the actual functionality of the console itself. now if you took the ps2 a person is getting a ps1/ps2/cdplayer/dvdplayer all in one with no additional downloading, which cannot be said for the wii. now its understandable that nintendo has a much larger game library considering they have released a few more consoles than sony, but again an individual does not need an internet connnection to play older generation games. for the most part the ps2 is simply plug and play. i cannot literally take my NES tecmosuperbowl game and plug it into the wii and play it. however i could take a madden game from psx and directly play it with the ps2. again i understand the argument that, "well its backwards cap. with gamecube games and we can directly play those...." but again i already covered that and it is a fair argument, but again consider the two lifespans.

now lets think for a minute about how cool it could be or will be to play some of the old great titles of our childhood....amazing isnt it? the only problem is you have to pay to play them, a fairly reasonable price i might add. in all fairness though, how long can anyone play blades of steel, mario, tecmo, ninja turtles, zelda, bond, etc etc. before the games get a tad bit old?? how many people still have working nintendo units with their games and still regularly play them? i'll be honest, i happen to have and its hooked up both nes/snes in the cellar with the games i grew up with. ironically i haven't played one of those games in years. generally when a new system comes along the old gets pushed to the side, and occasionally will see some playing time, but it doesn't last too long.

believe me i am not a nintendo hater or anything, i just think after SNES and being the age i am, nintendo just doesn't provide the games i find appealing. i will also say i understand what its like to enjoy video games and i am really not trying to belittle anyone here, but seriously nintendo is meant for the younger crowd. i just don't see how someone could really argue against that. people mention the games AC, god of war, gears of war, dead rising, killzone, DMC, halo, GTA, RE, saints row, socom, etc etc as games that are the potential blockbuster titles for their respectable system(s). so where are all the wii titles for that class?

that is not even english nor did i say that, not to mention the fact that you didn't even properly quote what i wrote......

the only problem with that is no one has played all three consoles and thus e3 and the reported reaction by the general public is just speculation at this point. in reality and in general, i am not a "follower" and its not a case of being a fanboy, but the reasons i gave earlier for my opinion of nintendo, which we're all open to discuss, as this is the console debate thread.

naturally i like the idea nintendo took in going in a different direction with their controller, but i just don't see it as being something that will continually be used by people. i think it'll get old after the first few days of gameplay until a new friend comes over to show off or maybe even a new game comes out. in closing, how long do some of you actually think you will continually use their motionsensing controller till it gets redundant, tiring, or even just plain old?

 

@fninja.

did you ever read my post? or prefer not to reply?


@hade
good post

 

sorry anubis i missed that one.

 

ok i just read it, well its what you have been saying for a while now, which is that the ps3 is a powerfull console and that the cell works well with the the rsx.

but all i am saying is that i am yet to see a game (ingame) that will never come on the xbox 360 b/c it may not be "as powerfull", or even just a game beter than any game soon to release for the xbox 360. if the ps3 came out with crysis exactly like it is on the pc, and it was said that it can not be done on the xbox 360, then i would put my hands up and say ok the ps3 is in a leage of its own and all those specs that everyone keeps on going on about have actually proven themselves.

 

@hade excellent post I was an inch away from addressing those quotes myself except I saw yours.It wouldn't have been pretty lol.

@fninja the xbox360 has been out for almost a year.Of coarse it has some great titles,oh wait actually it doesn't....They still haven't produced a great game.But no matter what we put it front of you, your going to say the same thing.I could put resistance,mgs4,warhawk,assasins creed,killzone 2,grand turismo hd,UNREAL TOURNAMENT 2007,on and on right in front of your nose and it will be the same.You and I both know 360 has been bland.

I just got perfect dark zero and didn't expect much, but it's fasted paced and has some great action.To me that's the best exclusive so far which isn't saying much.

 

"Of coarse it has some great titles,oh wait actually it doesn't....They still haven't produced a great game"

true.

"But no matter what we put it front of you, your going to say the same thing."

thats not really fair, all i said is that i have yet to see a game better than forth coming xbox 360 games.

"I could put resistance,mgs4,warhawk,assasins creed,killzone 2,grand turismo hd,UNREAL TOURNAMENT 2007"

great list of games, but unreal tournament looks very similar to gears of war, gt hd did not look that impressive, assasins creed is coming to the xbox 360 on the same day, war hauk did look crisp but also nothing that special (i did like the way the controller was used to fly the air crafts though), killzone 2 was cgi so none of us really know how thats going to turn out, resistence does look the best out of the bunch in my opinion and mgs4 was not ingame (not saying that the game will not look like that but i am guesing that your last post was replying to my last post, and if you look back i said "(ingame)").

 

not sure people really thought about this, but has it dawn'd on anyone that gow, mass effect and halo have bascially the same overall concept. some race fighting against another lifeform (aliens). actually gow may be the exception and seems to be the more promising title out of the 3, but again i just don't see the overall variety in game selection that people find with the playstation brand. lets look at playstaton....

MGS is a completely different setting and backround than Resistance is going to be. Socom is aimed towards realism and modern warfare. by realism i am not referring to actual gameplay, but the weapon selections, team movement commands, locations, and styles of fighting (urban warfare for example). one may even be able to throw Killzone into the mix of things. there doesn't seem to be the cluster of similar settings or basic ideologies for playstation games. now thats not to say that there are not similarities to former games, but i think that is pretty much across all the boards as far as the platforms are concerned

naturally most could argue one way or another, but again look at the 360 and two games like Saint's Row and Dead Rising. saint's row simply a spin off of gta, and dead rising has some similarities between the RE series. same company we know, but where is the innovation or leaps and bounds between these games. i am not saying that these titles arn't good or don't add their own neat features, but again it just seems more of the same old, same old.