Cant get tv to play thro home theatre, samung.

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  1. sallieg

    sallieg Member

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    Hi guys, hope you can help this old gal out again with another problem please, I have a just bought a 50" plasma HD and a samsung home theatre system 7.1 blu ray 7 speakers + sub, the problem is I can watch tv with tv sound, but cant get it to have sound through home theatre, the dvd is fine it plays through home theatre, likewise the radio and music, but to watch tv through it, I just cant work it out, it has the hdmi connected, which is what they suggest, (samsung) hdmi out on tv to hdmi in on blu ray dvd, also went and got the optical connection which is going into port 1 and the manual suggests, but I cant find out how to bring up the theatre, or get tv to work through home theatre, could one of you lovely guys please help out. Much appreciated, thank you
     
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    Are you using Cable or satellite box for your tv channels? If so, you go from cable or sat box to the A/V receiver (Samsung) first, then out to the tv. Depending on how well your cable or sat box does with HDMI for audio, you may have to use the optical cable from the box to the receiver, for the audio.

    Did you assign the HDMI and/or optical input on the Samsung, to the tv? This usually has to be done, or you have the problem you're having. The owner's manual should walk you through this.

    You should also know that the only channels that broadcast in 5.1 surround, are HD channels, some premium movie channels (HBO, Starz, etc.), and some PPV channels. All others are just stereo, but you can set the Samsung to play in Dolby Pro Logic (simulated surround), for those. Some channels sound very good in Pro Logic.

    If you're getting your tv channels from OTA (over the air), with an antenna, then you can go out from tv, to the input on the Samsung. The output on the tv isn't for doing a piggy back connection, from cable or sat box. Going from tv to receiver will still probably require that you assign the input used on the Samsung, to the tv (HDMI and/or optical).

    What is the model number of the Samsung HT system?
    Is it the HT-BD2T?
    If so, see page 25 of your owner's manual, for info on hooking up and using optical input, for cable/sat box.

    Good luck!
    I hope this has helped.
    Let us know how it goes..............
     
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    Hi, Yes it is a HT BD2, we only have free to air channels, on page 42, where it talks about theatre, have you any idea where I can find that, we have made the remote Anynet (samsung) we are using hdmi cable for tv to blu ray dvd, also bought the optical, but just cant get it to work. Hope you have a hint to help out, much appreciated. Everything is fine, only that the home theatre audio wont come through when watching tv, HD or normal.
     
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    All I know to tell you, is what I said before. See page 25 of your owner's manual, and go step by step.

    Since you're connecting from the tv, instead of a cable/sat box, you probably need to change a setting in the tv's setup menus, to output the audio over the optical output. That's all I know that it could be.
    Good luck!
     
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    i will have a go i think u need a connection like phonos out [ not in] of tv to input of receiver,that will give you sound hopefully as with hdmi will only give u 1 way traffic as in blue ray -tv and not tv-blue ray.
     
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    Thanks guys, I will try all you suggest, and if I dont have any luck will ask samsung and let you know how it goes, and what finally fixes it. Have a great day.
     
  7. bigbob227

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    The optical output on your display is only going to output the digital audio stream from the HDMI connection from your DVD player/DVR/SAT/Cable Box (Which ever one is active or playing). (HDMI contains both audio and video). The purpose for this output is so you can avoid connecting your DVD player/DVR/SAT/Cable box through your receiver/processor, but instead connect it directly to your display (so that video quality is improved (not degraded by running through the receiver/processor) and one less cable is in the video chain), then output the digital audio stream back out to your receiver/processor. To access the audio output for "off-air" TV, use the analog (red/white) RCA connectors marked "audio output" and connect to your Receiver/Processor on any available audio input. (Usually, you can just use the audio inputs (red/white) of Video 1 or Video 2, etc. and then when you want to listen to TV sound through your Surround Sound you select that Input (Sony and other receiver/processors have an input marked TV, others you can customize in the menu). In addition, many displays/TV's require that you enable the analog audio outputs, select fixed (perferred) or variable (Tv volume control still works to control output - not reccommended) and finally select TV speakers off (Once connected as above, TV speakers can always remain in the off position, but you will always have to use your receiver/processor for sound) Hope this helps. Let me know if I can help further. Regards Bob
     
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    She said she only gets tv from OTA (antenna), so the tv has a built-in atsc tuner.
    Don't mean to make you mad, but I'm pretty sure you're wrong about that. The optical output on the tv is for 5.1 surround from HD channels, captured by antenna, over the air. The optical outputs on tvs are not meant for a piggyback connection, like you're talking about. Not for 5.1 surround anyway. There are a couple of models that will allow a piggyback connection like that, but they'll down convert to stereo, which means the best you'll get is Dolby Pro Logic, if even that. Unless this is something totally new, that's just come out in the last month or so. If it is, I apologize........, but I really don't think so. As I said, I don't mean to upset you bigbob. :eek:)

    Also, today's receivers don't degrade signals like they did years ago. Especially digital signals over HDMI. The older receivers could degrade the analog signals (yellow composite connection, s-video, or component). But they don't even degrade those anymore. Those problems have been worked out for awhile now.
     
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    JVC, You are correct. I missed the boat on this one. Current HDCP standards limit the output on these optical outputs to 2 channel stereo unless the signal originates from an ATSC "Off-Air" tuner in which case, as you correctly state, the output will be 5.1 Dolby Digital. You must directly connect an optical or coax digital audio cable from your DVD/SAT/DVR/Cable Box to your Receiver/Processor if you run your HDMI cable direct to the display (to bypass the HDMI double cabling and switching in the Receiver/Processor) in order to get 5.1 Dolby Digital or DTS. With that said, most better quality receivers and most all high quality A/V Processors now do a very good job with HDMI 1.3 as far as video switching is concerned. Thanks for the correction. Regards Bob
     
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    Have similar problem and am technoligcally challenged big-time, so pls bear with me! Have cable but no box, have Panasonic plasma HDTV, and trying to get the tv to work through my new Samsung HT-TZ512. Connected with an hdmi cable. DVD, IPOD, and tuner all work fine with all speakers working okay. Do I need this "Optical" connector I've seen in some of these posts? I did not see that instruction in my manual. I'm thoroughly frustrated and SuperBowl starts in about an hour! Help, anyone?
     
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    Sorry, I didn't see this before the ball game.
    Did you assign the HDMI input you used, to the tv? See the owner's manual for your A/V receiver, for directions on how to do this.
     
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    Thanks for replying. Unfortunately, have been through both the HT system's manual and the TV's manual each many times over, page by page, and see no instructions on that. I guess we'll need to call Samsung. But this is awfully frustrating. Who writes these manuals?? Do they ever test them on non-techies to make sure they are effective before they go to print??

    But again, I appreciate your attempt at helping us.
     
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    Hi Sallieg :) Just a stab in the dark but I noticed your post and I had someone with a similar problem and they had forgot to take the clear rubber protectors off both ends of the optical cable. I don't know if it is as simple as that for you but thought I'd say anyhow.

     

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