CD Collections.... I'VE HAD IT!!!!!!!!!

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  1. weazel200

    weazel200 Regular member

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    I am absolutely fed up of collecting CD's now. You spend your hard earned cash on an album you want and then 6 months later the same album gets released with bonus tracks or a DVD. I'm sick of it. Yet if you download the song or songs you don't have you run the risk of getting sued by the greedy bastards that are the RIAA. You cant win. Why do record compaines bother re-releasing an album when its only been out less than a year. And another thing that ticks me off is albums getting remastered. Ok so there are going to be people who don't own the original but but for the people who do have it they have to buy the damn thing again if they want it. It's just not right.

    And the same thing applies to DVD's. Take the Lord of the Rings trilogy, theres like a gazillion different versions of all 3 movies. It totally takes the fun out of collecting stuff when the same thing gets constantly re-released.

    Some will say use a download service like iTunes or Napster but why should I when potentially downloading all the songs off an album could cost more than buying the thing from the shops. It costs £0.79 a track from iTunes and also the quality isnt as good as the original CD. And for times when i'm not at a computer I won't have access to them.

    When will these a$$holes learn that what they're doing is completely ruining everyones enjoyment.
     
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    Lethal_B Moderator Staff Member

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    exactly man. it bugs me out aswell! i mean, i don't think i buy as many cd's as you. but i stil love my music. dont get me wrong, i do go on2 p2p often to get songs but i also buy albums of the people i think have put hard work into a lot of good songs and are worthy of 12 quid of my hard earned. a couple within the last year to name are 50 cent and ushers album. i bought the confessions album and i really enjoyed it. then i felt cheated when a new version came out with 4 additional tracks. they are basically saying you either have to downloads, like you say, lesser quality versions of the songs or buy it again or turn to p2p. same goes for the massacre. i have heard ther is a new version out and i only bought it about 3 months ago. really annoyed. i think ther should be a policy that you can return it if you have the origional and get the updated one because they are cheating us out of money. Damn. if they want people to steer away from p2p, pi$$ing us off is the rong way of going about it!! :mad::mad::mad:

    lethal
     
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    weazel200 Regular member

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    I 2nd that Lethal. I didn't actually buy Confessions but was shocked to see a new version come out just a few months after the first one did. And with the new version coming out of 50's "Massacre" which has 2 changes, the 1st is the original "Outta Control" has been replaced by the "Outta Control Remix ft. Mobb Deep" and the "Hate it or Love It Remix" has been left off and also the bonus disc with live performances they expect people to buy it again just for one song. Also Eazy E's greatest hits album "Eternal E" has been re-released with a bonus track and a DVD which annoys me as that was quite hard to find when I bought it last year.

    It's the same with Eminem's Encore album. There are 4 versions to date. 1) Standard version with 1 disc, 2) Double disc version with main disc and bonus disc, 3) Collectors edition (which is the same as the double disc version but in different packaging and 4) The Japanesse version with more bonus tracks.

    Another thing is how some countries get bonus tracks on their version of the albums while some countries dont. I know Americans must be p*ssed off when countries like the UK and Japan get better versions than the one released in their own country.

    It's absolutely disgusting how the average consumer who may not have internet access will have to buy the same album again just to hear new songs or get a dvd that comes with it.

    And then they go absolute nuts and slap lawsuits on you or charge you £4,000 for downloading illegally.

    This is a no win situation. I would like to meet the smart a$$ who comes up with the idea of re-releasing an album 6 months after its come out. I would f*cking well speak my mind to his pathetic face.
     
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    Lethal_B Moderator Staff Member

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    aw man i know the list is endless. i feel bloody cheated. bigtime!

    2pac also man. they keep releasing ehanced stuff from him and i just feel totally pi$$ed bout it because i actually wnt out and bought 9 of 2pacs albums (the origionals), and then found that one of the classics all eyez on me was enhanced. wtf is that bout????????????

    they have no reason for it.... but as i say. i think if we have the origional, we should be entitled to a free copy of the update. because they're takin the pi$$ outa us and it bugs me out

    Psssssssssssssshhhhhhh *letting off steam*
     
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    Luckily all my Pac stuff is either digitally remastered or there is only one version of the same album available. But I wonder how long it will be till they remaster the rest of his albums or re-release them with bonus tracks or a DVD.

    They did the same with Biggies 1st album "Ready to Die". It came out in 94 I got it 2 years ago and last year they re-released it with 2 bonus tracks and a DVD.

    Also with Nas's Illmatic. Came out in 94, re-released it last year with bonus tracks.

    I'm absolutely sick of it.

    You bring up a good idea of how if you own the original then you should be entitled to the updated version free of charge but the greedy record labels will end up losing money and say its a waste of their time.

    Someone should argue a case against these ba$tards and hopefully give everyone the justice they deserve.
     
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    Lethal_B Moderator Staff Member

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    oi check this. its The Game. i'm not particularly feelin his music or nuffin just read. it's kind of a step forward as far as getting fans goes. His fans can enjoy the music without feelin ripped off.

    http://www.theblackwallstreet.com/

    lethal
     
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    Cheers for the link Lethal. I'm actually feeling Game. His music is great and he's nothing like 50. I like 50's music but the man needs a reality check. He's not the king of rap.
     
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    Lethal_B Moderator Staff Member

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    Well i think 50 is a fake but his music is ok. Game is so-so but he needs to get over the whole dissin g-unit thing and move on.

    i'm feelin kanye tho. probably the best rapper alive. Along with jay-z. i bin to a jay-z concert!! it was raw!!
     
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  9. weazel200

    weazel200 Regular member

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    How many CD's do you own lethal?
     
  10. aabbccdd

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    yeah iam with ya guys except on the rap LOL

    they have re-released my "Zeppelin" and "Sabbath" albums like 3 time and the "Yes" albums have been re-released probably at least 4 times

    i have like 2000 cds/albums myself and not a one of them are a rap album lol.

    and whats with the font being different?
     
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    Lethal_B Moderator Staff Member

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    that's fair enough, we all like our own stuf, afterall.

    i've bout 1500 albums

    bou 99%hiphop r&B garage.

    i have a few different things like nickelback evanescence &the offspring. thats it really!
     
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    I prefered the old font.

    Anyway back to topic. It's with every genre.

    I was in a music shop a couple of monts ago and this angry guy game in and he said he wanted a refund on the new Bruce Springsteen album "Devils & Dust" because he got the standard version and the bonus edition with DVD had come out a couple of days later. The manager said he couldnt give him a refund or swap it as the CD wasnt faulty and it had been used.
     
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    Feeeling you totally weazel.. Hollywood/Bollywood loves to rape consumers in the ass when it comes to cd/dvd releases. seems there is always always a barebones stripped down version shoved down our throats the day the cd/dvd is released. a few months go by and there is a SE / enhanced version out now for $10/$15 more. So another few months goesa by , now there's a Director's Cut out for yet another $10. God forbod by Christmas there is yet another version : the Director's Cut Unrated Super Extended Mega Boxset. (yea I know Im ranting but you get the idea)

    Goddamned greedy ass studios/Hollywood/Bollywood keep raping ppl and yet they wonder why piracy runs rampant. I'll admit it - I will go buy /get a dvd as a gift when first rlsed but than when the Director's cut dvd is rlsed, I will usually either dl it or rent it and burn my own copy. I feel that why should I bother buying the dvd again? they already raped me for $21 the first round.

    Oh and just wait for the Star Wars Quadrilogy to come out.. Its gunna make the Matrix collection look pathetic lol . Greedy George Lucas and hollywood already conspiring to release just SW Episode 3 in god knows how many versions over the next 5 yrs plus the overall SW Quadrilogy boxset ; which is probably gunna include yet another round of versions of the SW dvds.
     
  14. aabbccdd

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    and the marketing machine keeps rolling and lots of people keep getting sucked in
     
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    Yea, as long as they can still make a profit on the customers who don't have the internet and therefore can't download they will continue to re-release CD's and DVD's as much as they like. But imagine if nearly everybody had interet and boycotted the sales of CD's and DVD's completely and instead downloaded everything then the record companies and movie studios would be forced into compomising with us. It would be so much more simpler if only one version of each album and dvd were released then piracy would go down a bit I reckon. But until something like that happens we are still going to get pi$$ed when something we've already purchased is getting re-released.
     
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    of course we are. if you think about it, a large chunk of music buyers are between 11-14. now they might only get 'pocket money' so wont be able to chuck it about. when i was that age i had about £ 20 left over in the month and would always get an album. there was one album i bought. i can't remember what it was, but i bought it. and then soon after they were giving away something with it. it was something that i would now not even care about but at 11 yrs old and in year 6 (sixth grade), it meant a helluva lot to me then. what i mean is, kids are going to start to think 'f**k buying records when im gettin screwed over like that'. this means consequently, in 10 years time, they will probably be heavy downloaders and in effect the big companies will blast themselves in the foot.

    some people just gotta learn the hard way........
     
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  17. bobright

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    on point weazel, i feel the same way
     
  18. weazel200

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    I'm seriously considering selling off most of my CD's from my 150+ collection (seems nothing compared to aabbccdd's collection of 2000) and only keeping the classics. The ones I sell i'll copy to blank cd-r's and covert to MP3 or another format and scan the artwork in. I would prefer to have my collection on a computer as I can access any album when ever I want. If I somehow lost the data or get a virus I will have the music backed up on to cd and with the amount of album artwork websites around i'm bound to find the artwork again.

    It's no fun collecting anymore. I'm lucky I don't buy many DVD's ( I have 25 in total) as there just as big a pain in the a$$ as CD's. Also I have Satellite and there's plenty of films on each night to suit my needs.
     
  19. aabbccdd

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    but iam 47 and have been buying music for 35 plus years there weazel200 .hang in there your have that many to someday ,i kinda like have the cds because of the liner notes and all and alot of my stuff is OOP.
     
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    True but for how long will CD's be around for. I'm sure in the future they won't bother to release music onto CD's but instead on to MP3 or another format. It's happening to DVD. In a few years the current DVD's wont be used any more as Blue-Ray or HD-DVD or what ever it's called will take over.
     

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