Ok, time for a debate on this subject because there is already a sort of half debate on it going on on a news story posted months ago! Ill put forward my opinions on this first. 1. A child cannot consent to sex or having any photographs taken of them of a secual nature because the child would lack the mental capacity to give that consent. Basically we see these 17 and 18 year old women who are pregnant because they made a mistake, they didn't fully understand the consequences of their actions, now if this is the case, can you imagine a child? Do you honestly think a child could consent to sex? Definately not! 2. Child Porn is exploitation of Children, no matter what context its put in or what catagories! Everybody know's about Nudist resorts and Nudist ways of life! Now there are some Nudism Websites that advertise events and generally the naturist way if life. Why arent the Feds after these sites? Simply because this is like a culture and in a way a good way to bring up children as they will tend to be more mature on the subject! BUT, if someone gets a picture of a child off a website like this and spreads it accross P2P or Newsgroups with the description "Preteen Child Porn" or whatever, they are exploting the children in these photos because think aboiut it, if someone was really looking for pictures of nudism, and it said "Preteen Child Porn" why would they download it? They are exploiting the children in the photo, using it for a purpose that it was NOT created for! 3. The actions taken by Governments to crack down on Child Porn are right! Yes they are overwhelmingly right IMHO. On that news thread, a user made a comment about child porn being legal until the late 70's, and also said it was causing a much less rate of children being molested! Now there is no way to justify child porn, not even that way. Thats basically saying, "we'll exploit their innocence to protect them", that makes no sense to me! As for the action taken on P2P I stand behind it too. P2P is a technology like the VCR. If someone had tapes of children performing or being involved in Sex Acts, its highly illegal and highly wrong. This is no different just because they are files and not tapes! It's using a technology to spread this material and the only way to put an end to it is to arrest those involved and destroy the files. Its the same with Newsgroups! 4. A website that promotes nudism art consisting mainly of kids, that has a userbase of people who use the material as Porn should be seen as a Child Porn Website. I definately believe this. Some sites are masking what their main purpose is and thats to supply photo's of children naked to people who are misusing them to make a profit. I can understand the nudism way of life but what I don't understand is why these sites would only stick to kids in the first place! Isnt there Adult's who visit nudist resorts and participate in the life-style too? I think there needs to be law changes here to outlaw these sort of website's. Well thats all I'll say for now, if anyone wants to argue with any comment I made, please feel free, thats what a debate is about! _ _ _X_X_X_X_X_[small]http://www.BillLonero.com - Check out a true artists music! aD channel on IRC: irc.addictz.net #ad_buddies Newbie IRC Guide- http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/47221[/small]
Dela, I agree ... Child porn is sick!! I think the problem is, the age of consent varies by country. Even here is the States they are different. http://www.ageofconsent.com/ageofconsent.htm
i completely agree with all your points dela, anyone caught involved in any part of that kind of activity should be taken down the road and shot, whether its maintaining a site like that, going onto a site like that - or even not reporting a site or activities like that, children are so innocent and they depend on us to take care of them - instead a lot of sick people are abusing that trust - if children are going to grow up not trusting people because of such acts, what does that say about our future.. hopefully some time in the near future there will be a method of either stopping this occuring or wiping it out completely - but for now, i guess we can only trust people, and hope they do not abuse that trust. people like that should be killed.. plain and simple Edit = typo _X_X_X_X_X_[small]Same Shit Different Day - Get Used To It I Have.[/small]
A 500 round brick of .22 rimfire costs $12 and a decent .22 pistol goes for $250 so any subhuman worthless sack of shit that has anything to do with child porn can be popped right behind the ear then throw the body to the hogs. A very simple and cost effective solution to ridding society of those that have no business being alive. There aren't words in the English languge that could even begin to describe my disgust for people like that.
so we're talking 1 500 round brisk per person right? i know the .22 will enter the skull and just rattle around in there and make scrambled eggs out of the brain, but come on, there's more body parts to make into swiss cheese, i'm not even sure if 500 would be enough to make me happy. now that i think about it, i aint wasting my ammo on these sick bastards, as a father of 3 girls i'd much rather just deal with the problem with a nice dull kitchen knife and some grain alcohol.
All agreed, i'm a dad myself, it's not as if you can 'accidentally' access CP sites, the whole credit card booking scenario makes it a pre-meditated act. I wouldn't mind what weapon i used, as long as it caused as much pain as possible.
Not much to debate. It's an absolutely defendable position Although you probably cant get to the "member" sections... there's enough sick content at the front door .... ISPs like AOL dont seem to do anything about that ..... kinda sucks. _X_X_X_X_X_[small]ASUS A7N8X-X, XP2500+ OC'd to XP3200+ Samsung 1024MB, PC2700 OC'd to PC3200 480GB [3x160GB, 7200, 8MB] EVGA, GeForce4 Ti4600 128MB Rules and Policies: http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/2487[/small]
It's time to get especially creative for pedophiles. I think a good start would be to pry off the finger/toe nails with a flat bladed screwdriver. If they pass out a good zap with a stripped lamp cord should get them moving. Now we take a pneumatic 16 guage brad nailer and start popping brads into the major bone structure up and down the arms, legs , jaw (not the teeth, that's later), and hip bone. Lamp cord if/when needed. Bolt cutters and a propane torch are next for removing all digits and then cauterizing them so he doesn't bleed to death. Lamp cord if/when needed. Jellied gas on the groin is next. Apply, light and let it burn his you-know-what-off. Lamp cord if/when needed. A cold chisel and hammer will take care of the teeth. An electric drill for drilling holes through the feet. A sledghammer for removing the hands and busting up the legs. Big pliers to twist the nose and ears off. Then finish up by cutting his arms off and beating him to death with them. How many people would be so quick to indulge in child porn if these methods were implemented? Unforutunately, in this case, our essential Constitutional rights prevent us from giving these degenerates what they truly deserve.
very much agreed!! I think the parents of the child should get an hour alone with the bastards. and if it's the parents that do it to their own kids, well they should just be shot if found guilty. no jail, no deathrow, no nothing, just have the court baliff drag them out back and wax the creeps.
I have to agree with all the above posts but torture is not the way to bring theses ppl to justice. Bare with me on this as a relative to a victim I have given this quite a bit of thought and this I feel is a fairly good solution. Firstly these animals have quite a bit to answer for in regard with todays society with the majority of inmates in prizons today being abused or raped at some stage in their life. This is no excuse for their criminal behaviour but maybe just maybe they wouldnt have taken that path had the sick bastards not been able to get their hands on them. Secondly most of these scum are re-offenders so if they had of been dealt with appropiately the first time then it would of saved a lot of kids heart ache and mental problems later in life. Going by this theory these poor excuses for humans have taken a hell of a lot from society and it is only fair that they be made to repay this debt in full and with interest. Now another problem with the world today is the severe lack of organ and tissue donations. There are thousands of men, women and children out there waiting for a new heart, lung or kidney so they can have that second shot at life with their friends and families. in my experirnce these ppl are the ones that deserve to live. So 1 + 1 = 2. Problem and a solution. maybe even have the operating theartre just that. A "theatre". The victim and family can go along to watch as the neighbourhood peadophile is dismembered and broken up for spare parts. The shortage of organs would decrease rapidly and be under control at no time at which point bodies could be donated to science and body farms.
i agree - that WOULD be a good solution, but you know these Right campaigners, theyd try and get it so we couldent cut em up - and use them for spare parts
Ahhh i like your thinking, your name doesent lie ;D ok people lets take a vote - who wants to (seriously) get the government to cut up these people that are indirectly or directly involved - and use them for organ doners?
Curious post... (Who would argue/disagree? Certainly not me.) Perfect for Safety Valve - people are blowing off lots of anger, bloody right too. But NEPHILIM !! Creativity is a wonderful thing, but you're ruding me out, man... LoL Yuck ;-( Just say child-pervs should be shot and pissed-on. It worked for 10,000 years and has only very recently fallen into disuse. Jurisprudence has its disadvantages... Regards
Hey Neph, I've said it before and I'll say it again. I like the way you think. Being the father of a four year old girl, I would have to kill a person for doing such things to my daughter, consequences be damned.
hell yeah deeman - i got 3 girls, the twins are 4 and the oldest is 9. I hope i never have to deal with a situation like that. I would easliy rip the person into little peices with my bare hands, but I'm afraid that wouldn't be enough and everyone within a 2 mile radius would also become of pointless victim of my anger. yes i know thats not realistic, but having 3 girls has turned me into a very protective father, especially in todays world. I could see me taking out a whole city block to get to one sick fusker if i had too.
I don't have any kids that I'm aware of but just the concept that some pervert will, without an afterthought, absolutely and completely destroy a child for the rest of his/her life just to get off sickens and angers me to the core. When and if I'm ever blessed with a child, God help anyone who even looks at my child wrong.
This just happened overnight around Sydney way. http://dailytelegraph.news.com.au/story.jsp?sectionid=1258&storyid=1660517
Yes, I'm in favor of the old american native way. Bury them up to their neck in the dirt then pour honey on their head and watch the insects and creatures have a field day.
