Chip Fan

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  1. skorpio81

    skorpio81 Member

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    Good day people,

    My ChipFan stopped spinning, I dont even think it ever started. And oh boy, when I touch it, its freakin hot. Does it mean that the problem isnt that it aint supplied well and that the fan itself is dead?

    Processor
    Model : AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4800+
    Speed : 2.41GHz
    Model Number : 4800 (estimated)
    Performance Rating : PR7236 (estimated)
    Cores per Processor : 2 Unit(s)
    Threads per Core : 1 Unit(s)
    Type : Dual-Core
    Internal Data Cache : 2x 64kB Synchronous, Write-Back, 2-way set, 64 byte line size
    L2 On-board Cache : 2x 1MB ECC Synchronous, Write-Back, 16-way set, 64 byte line size

    Mainboard
    Bus(es) : PCI PCIe USB i2c/SMBus
    MP Support : 1 Processor(s)
    MP APIC : No
    System BIOS : Phoenix Technologies, LTD ASUS A8N-E ACPI BIOS Revision 1008
    System : System manufacturer System Product Name
    Mainboard : ASUSTeK Computer INC. A8N-E
    Total Memory : 1GB DDR-SDRAM

    Chipset 1
    Model : Advanced Micro Devices (AMD) Athlon 64 / Opteron HyperTransport Technology Configuration
    Front Side Bus Speed : 2x 1005MHz (2010MHz data rate)
    Total Memory : 1GB DDR-SDRAM
    Memory Bus Speed : 2x 160MHz (320MHz data rate)

    Video System
    Monitor/Panel : COMPAQ V50 Color Monitor
    Adapter : NVIDIA GeForce 7800 GTX

    Physical Storage Devices
    Removable Drive : Floppy disk drive
    Hard Disk : Maxtor 6B200P0 (190GB)
    Hard Disk : ST3300831AS (279GB)
    CD-ROM/DVD : PLEXTOR DVD-ROM PX-130A (CD 50X Rd) (DVD 6X Rd)
    CD-ROM/DVD : _NEC DVD_RW ND-3551A (CD 48X Rd, 48X Wr) (DVD 6X Rd, 6X Wr)
    CD-ROM/DVD : SCSIVAX DVD/CD-ROM SCSI CdRom Device (CD 32X Rd) (DVD 4X Rd)

    Logical Storage Devices
    Hard Disk (C : 279GB (60GB, 22% Free Space) (NTFS)
    CD-ROM/DVD (D : N/A
    CD-ROM/DVD (E : N/A
    CD-ROM/DVD (F : N/A
    Hard Disk (G : 190GB (11GB, 6% Free Space) (NTFS)

    Peripherals
    Serial/Parallel Port(s) : 1 COM / 1 LPT
    USB Controller/Hub : Standard OpenHCD USB Host Controller
    USB Controller/Hub : Standard Enhanced PCI to USB Host Controller
    USB Controller/Hub : USB Root Hub
    USB Controller/Hub : USB Root Hub
    Keyboard : Standard 101/102-Key or Microsoft Natural PS/2 Keyboard
    Mouse : HID-compliant mouse
    Human Interface : USB Human Interface Device

    MultiMedia Device(s)
    Device : MPU-401 Compatible MIDI Device
    Device : Standard Game Port
    Device : Realtek AC'97 Audio

    Printers and Faxes
    Model : Microsoft Office Document Image Writer

    Power Management
    AC Line Status : On-Line

    Operating System(s)
    Windows System : Microsoft Windows XP/2002 Professional (Win32 x86) 5.01.2600 (Service Pack 2)

    Network Services
    Network Drivers Enabled : No
     
  2. The_OGS

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    Hi Skorpio,
    Lots of 'chips' inside a PC - which cooler is overheating, your Northbridge or CPU?
    LoL, your CPU is worth $750 bucks (Canadian), don't squeak it!
    Keep your CPU cooler in tip-top shape.
    My ABit northbridge cooler fan died within weeks. I replaced it with a nice Zalman ZM-NB32J heatsink:
    http://www.bigfootcomputers.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=4803&Category_Code=40
    This cooler is passive, solid aluminum and can use ArcticSilver just like a CPU. With good airflow in your case (ie. 120mm exhaust fan) it works great.
    But don't mess around with a wimpy or aged CPU cooler! Re/re your existing cooler incl. a new fan, or pickup a whole new cooler as soon as may be.
    Regards
     
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    Forgot to mention,
    seems like your memory is running @ PC2700 speed, 166MHz (333DDR).
    You need some PC3200, and BIOS setup properly to run it at 200MHz (400DDR).
    L8R
     
  4. skorpio81

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    Hey The OGS, the cpu's fan is ok.
    It's the northbrige then. I'll get that heatsink.
    Can you tell me how to set it up?
     
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    My PC is 4months old btw,

    ps: can I put that heatsink on my cpu too?
    I want to put it on the chipset and the cpu
     
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    Hi,
    That's an nVidia Northbridge for Socket939 there, and it will generate some heat (more than my nForce2 Northbridge).
    Asus might install a passive cooler while ABit applies a fan - so if Asus applies a fan it's probably required, to deal with heat in 100% safety.
    They cannot count on the user's application of their mobo (the installation, case and airflow etc.) beyond their control.
    Anyway, it is unlikely your Northbridge is damaged - everything still works, right?
    The cooler with fan is required to deal only with the most adverse application environment, ie. no air, multiple harddisks (heat), heavy load (heat!) from hours of nonstop gaming or whatever... so you're probably fine :^)
    But get that fixed up ASAP. Use a passive cooler IF you have good airflow, low ambient temps, don't work the hell out of the PC and have a requirement for low noise.
    Otherwise you can purchase a stout replacement cooler with a 'real' fan, LoL ie. something metal with a substantial fan.
    These Northbridge coolers are similar to cheap Vidcard coolers - soon they must be replaced, and the aftermarket cooling solution will be far superior for sure.
    Remember: a good cooler and fan will cost a few bucks, and they're trying to sell the whole motherboard for $150 bucks or whatever, so you're not gonna get a $30 buck Northbridge cooler OEM.
    But feel free to install one yourself!
    Unfortunately, your motherboard must be removed from the case if the job is to be done properly...
    Note that ABit is a leader in moving Northbridge heat right out of your case, with their OTES heat-pipe technology:
    http://www.abit-usa.com/products/mb/products.php?categories=1&model=310
    Through this unique ABIT Engineered heat-pipe Silent OTES™ design, heat generated by the chipset can be efficiently and noiselessly conducted to the back panel.
    The 'lesser' ABit models continue to use an inexpensive maintenance-requiring cooler with fan, like most other manufacturers.
    If you require a silent PC (ie. home theatre PC etc.) you can purchase fanless silent CPU cooler, Northbridge cooler, Video cooler and even Powersupply.
    But quiet like that is gonna cost you! It's definitely specialized stuff, so don't worry, make a little noise.
    I don't care if it's noisy or quiet - just make sure it all stays nice & cool, okay?
    (Especially that CPU ;^)
    Regards
     
    Last edited: Mar 15, 2006

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