Clonedvd2... takes too much time ...?

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  1. Payta

    Payta Member

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    Hi all,

    I'm using Clonedvd2 and Any DVD to burn Movs, but talking to a friend I mentioned it took over 50 minutes at 6X to create the image and burn a 4.7g DVD.

    He told me he was using Nero and it was close to half (or less) of the time... is this acurate?

    I have a dell Pentium 4 with 512 of memory and have at least 20G of the hard drive available. Can somebody tell me what am I doing wrong?

    PS - Yes! I am a newbie.
     
  2. thormotox

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    are you ripping the files to the hard drive or are you using the temp. folder? it takes me about 25 minutes to rip anc burn the main movie only using the temp. folder
     
  3. ireland

    ireland Active member

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    the question i want to ask you,how long does it take to rip the movie? and how long for the burn?
    also check to see if your in dma mode and not in pio mode..
     
  4. Payta

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    Thormotox,

    Clone DVD makes an image a leaves it at a temp. folder and then it burns it to the DVD. At least that's my understanding.

    Ireland,

    To rip from 15-20 minutes and to burn it a bout 25-35 minutes. What are the DMA and PIO mode? How can I check this out?

    I have a Sony DRU710a that burns up to 16X, with double layer capacity.
     
  5. ireland

    ireland Active member

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    Could be in PIO mode, check it with this:

    Go to
    My Computer
    Control Panel
    System
    Hardware
    Device Manager
    IDE ATA/ATAPI controllers
    Open the installed IDE channels (Primary and Secondary)
    Click on Advanced settings
    You will see the transfer mode. Change it to DMA if available. If any are PIO or stepdown dma you need to un-install the channel (right click on the channel and choose uninstall) and re-boot. Windows will reinstall the device and return it to DMA mode.
    Be careful when using this procedure because if you have an older hard drive or storage device that does not support DMA you could corrupt your data.

    http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;817472

    After the Windows IDE/ATAPI Port driver (Atapi.sys) receives a cumulative total of six time-out or cyclical redundancy check (CRC) errors, the driver reduces the communications speed (the transfer mode) from the highest Direct Memory Access (DMA) mode to lower DMA modes in steps. If the driver continues to receive time-out or CRC errors, the driver eventually reduces the transfer mode to the slowest mode (PIO mode)..

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    What is DMA mode?
    DMA (Direct memory access) mode is a high performance mode for transferring data to and from devices, in particular, to CD and DVD burner devices.
    The burner devices can function in either DMA or PIO modes. DMA mode allows the processor to transfer large pieces of data with very little software overhead - therefore requiring low CPU utilization. In this mode, high speed burning can be performed in background with other programs running.
    PIO mode requires CPU processing for every few bytes sent to the device, so that CPU utilization becomes very high when trying to burn at high speeds.

     
  6. Payta

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    I will have to check it, I will reply by 1 pm pst.

    Let's hope it's that. Thanks Ireland.
     
  7. ozzy214

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    Also make sure your burner and the hard drive that is feeding the movie are on two seperate ide cables and not on the same.:>
     
  8. Payta

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    Thank you all for the quick response... I couldn't go home, I will check all and get with you tomorrow. Thx!
     
  9. Payta

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    It wasn't the IDE ATA/ATAPI controllers... about the other comment, I not that computer friendly.

    So I guess I'm stuck with 55 min. per mov.
     
  10. bunnyrip

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    Just backed up "The Man" in 16 minutes from start to completion with CloneDVD 2 & AnyDVD. Used Sony DVD+R & burned @ 8x. Main movie only. CloneDVD 2 is fast!
     
  11. Payta

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    Maaaaaaaaaan, don't rub it in!!!!
     
  12. 9mmruger1

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    My start to finish backups with CloneDVD2 and AnyDVD run from 22 to 28 minutes normally. I have been as fast as 19mins but not ususally.

    Cheers.
     
  13. Payta

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    Hey guys I need an answer not showing off how fast your system is (hahaha).

    All kidding aside, If somebody has another suggestion please let me know.

    Thanks all!!!!
     
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    Couple of recommendations for you. More Ram will improve your performance. Windows XP can use up to 128mb of ram just to run the system. Your DVD-RW drive can use up to 512mb of memory to run, but most will use around 128 to 256mb, so you can see that you have very little left to run your programs with.

    This is what my LG uses:

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    And window environment:

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    You indicated that you had a P4 but not the processor speed, this will have an effect on transcoding times as well.

    Cheers.
     
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  15. Payta

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    Right now I have 512 but I was thinking in doubling it.

    Either it doesn't hurt.

    Thanks Guys!
     
  16. Payta

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    Hey 9mm,

    I found this webpage that analizes diferent types of burners and hardware, it's very complete...

    http://www.cdrinfo.com/
     
  17. bunnyrip

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    I have found that 1 gigabyte of RAM is a good "Sweet Spot" with Windows XP when burning DVDs. I don't think anyone needs more that that. But 1 gigabyte seems to work VERY well.
     
  18. ozzy214

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    Listen up Newb's. Its not this and that. Its how you configured your computer and how it is running. Look at my sig. My work comp is a amd 800 slot a with asus board. It has 256 ram and a 2 meg's of ram on a pci vid card. It has two hard drives. A 7 gig wesatern digital 5400 rpm drive that is loaded with win xp and a 80 gig 7200.This run's win xp and burn's with 256. It has a 300 watt psu. It uses a 40 pin 80 wire ide cable for the hard drives. And a 40 pin 40 wire ide cable for the burner. Plus the drives run in dma mode 4 cause the mobo dont support higher.

    But see I broke every rule everyone says around here. You want to know why? Cause its properly configured and maintained.

    I burn three verbatim's last nite with this machine at 6 times burn speed stably and the scan says i got a 98% burn score according to nero cd/dvd info. And they played flawlessly in the stand alone.

    So you see its not ya need a big psu or a 80 wire 40 pin ide...no no no. You need to disable everyting when burning including the net. Be virus free and fragment free. Plus have your burner on a seperate cable and have two hard drives. One to run winblows and one to read the dvd your burning/ I have the win drive as a master and the 80 gig storage as a slave on ide 1 and the burner on ide 2.

    Plus you should all take look round the net. There is many guides with registry tweaks to optimize memory performance, drive performance. Plus you need the bios set up right.

    If I can burn flawlessly with a 5 year old pos that was given to me in a box as pieces...literally disassembled and thrown in a box...then you can too. Rant over...everyone have a nice day!

    Oh and intel sucks at encoding and burning. Get a amd. Thats part of the reason this system is stable. If it had a pIII 800 mhz forget it.


     
  19. dejahboi

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    so in that case it just configurations of your mobo rite??

    cuz i have a p4(kinna regret it )
    2x512 ddr2 dual channel
    geforce 6800 gs
    gigabyte mobo
    420 watts
    2 s-ata drive total 200 gigs
    n yeah the other stuff required to burn....

    but still in a way im backing up dvds at 40 to 50 mins.... which kinna sux...

    but do you think i should have the the dvd backed up in my slave and have clonedvd2 in my master? do you think that would change the time?
     
  20. ozzy214

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    Yes most definetly. If you have a seperate drive just for storage it will considerably increase speed and check ya mobo settings to be sure that dma is enable and optional stuff like the old com or ltp1 ports are disabled. Hell you really want to get nuts. Get a third drive...just a small one like a 5 gig and rin winblows swap file on it. Just make sure its a fast drive or you will be lagging.
     

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