I am still confused about the Shrink thing. I never clicked on DVD Decrypter to run, so the only way that DVD Decrypter could have caused my computer to access Nero (since all I aver ran was Shrink), is if DVD Decrypter is also bundled as a part of Shrink. Which for those non-technical (such as myself) would mean that Shrink CAN burn indirectly. Or at least can tell Nero to burn. Kinda like saying that I am not really listening to my radio, but to my speakers. Well, technically yes, but the speakers are a component part of a whole called your radio. While DVD Decrypter did the communication with Nero, it is part of the whole called Shrink (although I also have a separate copy of DVD Decrypter too) so I burned with Shrink. Anyway, that is just what intuition tells me. I don't want to get into an argument over this, because there is a good chance I am wrong, and will end up getting embarrased like that guy earlier in the thread who claimed that burning was done bit by bit and copy protection doesn't matter. On to my second point. I saw that you linked to a PSL file for Decrypter. Thank you for that, it will come in handy tonight. But back to question one, say when I get home tonight I get the PGCEdit program, and the PSL2 Plugin (which I believe I read the tutorial for) how can I know what files need to be removed? What I mean is, I want to be able to at least detect (hopefully nullify) the next arccos DVD I encounter, and deal with it without looking for a tutorial that is specific only to that movie. So, what cells, or PGC, or Vob, or VTS or other alphabet soup contains arccos, and what are the indicators? Is it incorrect size, does its filename show up in itallics, or does my CPU puff out purple smoke, or what signs are there for me to know that this particular unit of space on this file needs to be blanked, or edited, or whatever other proper word applied to it? I have got my fishing pole, and I am waiting for someone to show me how to cast (without paying extra money for a better rod and reel such as AnyDVD). EDIT: brobear I was typing when you responded about DVD FAB. Perhaps that is my solution. But nonetheless, if anyone can shed info on me learning to detect and remove arccos I would be happy to listen. EDIT AGAIN: Nevermind, I found a different general tutorial on how to use PSL2 files generated from PGCEdit to accomplish exactly what I was asking. Ahh, the power of Google.