since you say you're a programmer and that's supposed to make your statesments sound a little more convincing let me ask you a simple question: why did you never tell people like the mad monk that they are wasting their times writing stupid (because not necessary) applications like his PSL2 plugin to make dvdd handle latest arcos dvds when all we should do is using iso mode?
@UncasMS_3, Maybe that’s why he’s known as the “Mad Monk”. I am not trying to convince you are anyone else, I am just stating Facts and like I said TRY IT! Until you’ve tried it don’t knock it.. LOL You can use PSL2 plugins or VobBlanker or any other method you care to if it works for you then like they say: If it feels good, DO IT! Most ppl think if it’s that simple and you don’t have to use 7 or 8 different programs and perform a lot of Geek crap then it’s not going to work… All I can say is TRY IT! Do This: Download the following Guide: http://www.dvdplusvideo.com/petesguide13.html Read it well because it don’t have pretty pictures to go by. It uses DVDDecrypter in the ISO R mode, and will copy any new protection out there without any other help.. Make a backup of your most protected disk, your choice, and then, if it doesn’t work come back and tell me that I’m full of BS. Until then, if you’re not open minded enough to try something as simple as I have lain out before making an arbitrary decision about it, then just keep peeing on the fence..
No, it doesn’t matter.. As a matter of fact, Windows 3.1 had the same basic routines except it couldn’t handle a 8GB file like XP can…. LOL About the only drawback would be a FAT / FAT32 etc. file system. It must be using the NTFS filing system to handle a file over 4GB.
2oldGeek First let me say that CSS Decryption has absolutely nothing to do with whether it's file mode or ISO mode (International Standards Organization)! Same move but with different packaging. Now since you've stated that Perhaps you could tell how you go about editing an ISO movie before burning? Let's do a little experiment. Load a store bought DVD into your computers drive, locate your drive, and then right click on it. Choose explorer and then tell us what the first thing that you see is. I believe that it will be a VIDEO_TS folder. Now once you've burned it using ISO you will still see the same thing but having access to those folders before the burn opens it up to editing. Why is there a problem with ripping a DVD in the same format that it rests in its media. If you're just going to rip and burn then ISO and File mode are more or less equal but if your going to start editing it to remove the crap, then file mode is better. To assume that none of us have ever used ISO mode before is pure arrogance of the first order, we've just grown accustomed to appreciate the added flexibility that file mode offers. Now one last thing that link to the guide proved nothing. I like scubapete and he helped a lot of people here, but he wasn't the most knowledgeable when it came to DVD structure (Sorry Pete no slur intended). I appreciate your programing background but a knowledge in Fortran isn't much help when looking at a DVD's structure. Like I said same movie different packaging, but file mode is better for editing which I do often. BTW, welcome to AD. Cheers!
According to my understanding and experiences, both Mode, File F or Mode, Iso, Read are likely to bypass and or rip the movies successfully into the hard drive, if the individual knows how to use it (DVD Decrypter). However, I'll have to slightly agree with Sophocles that ripping with Mode, File F when using DVD Decrypter is better because you'll have more control over the movie (VIDEO_TS or IFO file) once it's successfully ripped. You can easily edit, cut, preview/view,play, blank out scenes, crap "bad/fake cells, pgcs, sectors, ect.", or any unwanted stuff with VobBlanker, FixVTS, PSL2 plugin, and IFOEdit. Just passing by that's all.
@ 2oldGeek hello I've seen you around for a little while now mostly pretty helpful! now tell me on what basis you are stating that your finding's have any truth whatsoever to them I'm confused is this some type of stunt??? why would you purposefully lead so many astray?? or do you seriously think that 300,000 beta's that helped to build this program are just full of it?? or just to stupid to realize this! why were there ever updates to the program if a simple iso read could take care of any protection that will be created! why is this forum full of ppl asking how to do certain titles! alot of us have been here in the forefront giving alot our time to helping engineer new creative way's around this and guiding ppl that need our help when all we really need is one thread stating use iso read! what programs are you fully or parltly responsible for creating maintaining, developing??? most of us have been here for the last several yearshelping ppl do just this dvd back-up! not programming, not in the 60's but here and now! this is much like henry ford saying that he knows everything about and could rebuild a lamborghini or a mig 1 jet for that matter!(he's dead you know) you didn't have window's in the 60's bud! we really appreciate somebody coming in here a matter of months ago and asking how do I use this and a month later tell ppl that these the guy's that taught me how are all abunch of moron's I personally appreciate it that my time spent here is all for naught when ppl come here and spread these rumor's we encourage newb's to help out when they can but if there pumped full of it we end up having to chase them around and correct prob's so thnx for you programming expertise!! thnx alot l8ter!
Well, I'm gonna chime in if I may. I don't want to add fuel to the fire nor to take sides but... so far, knock on wood, ISO mode in DVDDecrypter worked like a charm even on Sony movies. As far as reauthoring goes just DVDShrink or Nero was able to handle the task. Just my 2c.
I did madagascar in file mode!there are several zones within region's and each one seems to have been tested differently with different protection's I think they are still trying to find a way to use arcoss effectively! The point is to find one that doesn't work then try it in iso
2old A picture paints a thousand words. With this part you can edit the buttons to keep only those parts of the menu that you want. You can also add your own buttons. Another view of possible edits that can be made to the DVD's Structure. You'll note that to the left you can identify the various PGC chains mentioned earlier. I can if I choose to only remove the FBI and Interpol splash screens. I can use it to edit out multi angles, in fact with this I can strip a DVD apart. Now I would like you to tell how to do it in ISO mode.
Point & counterpoint. I've learned a few things from this thread. I do not like the tone it has taken. We are a community. Let's get along and not be so antagonistic. Even if it is jocular. TC
Buik Some spirited debate is not only normal it's also healthy, it's when it gets personal that it loses its meaning. I'm merely providing visual images to things that have already been discussed, it's so much more civilized and a whole lot less personal. Remember one man's ceiling is another man's floor.
i've actually found this thread to be quite informative. it seems arguments (or spirited debates) really do elicit the most knowledge. i hope you don't mind if i humbly interject a simple question at this stage of the conversation. i am fairly new to DVDdecrypter (i've used clonedvd2 extensively) and i would like the groups advice about several options on the "mode" tabs in the "settings" menu. specifically, should i be removing both the VOB and IFO prohibitted-user-operations? (i believe that's what anydvd does?) also, should i remove the IFO structure protection? i admit that i have very little understanding of this particular option. and, finally, is it advisable (as 2oldgeek suggests) to always use the DVD-ROM book-type? many, many thanks in advance for your guidance!
@2oldGeek 2oldGeek, I used Imgburn last night as I switched from using DVD Decrypter to burn my movies to DL media. I used the ISO Write mode in Imgburn to burn the ISO file that was previously stored on my hard drive from DVD Decrypter. I loaded the file in Imgburn, let the program do its thing, came back to the PC having shut down as I had set it to do so in the settings... I re-loaded the burnt disc in my DVD-ROM drive, ran DVD Decrypter ISO Read mode and it came up with no RCE Protection or Region protection whatsoever!!! - it showed the disc as being able to play on all regions regardless of what region the disc might have only been intended to play in the first place... So, in my opinion, what you have said is correct as there is no protection on the burnt/copied disc as I had verified it after the burn - just my two cents... Any replies and comments welcome... Regards
LOL, Gee I really stirred up a Hornets Nest! I acknowledge: alcohol, L8ter, dr_no, Sophocles, Buik, h8flp21, Et Al.. Thank you for your comments; it makes for a good forum to have so many responses….. My ONLY intention was to inform the newbies that you really don’t have to Own AnyDVD or any other decrypter to be able to copy a disc that has RipGuard, ARccOS, missing sectors, Puppet lock or any other “Protection”. All you have to do is rip it with DVDDecrypter in the ISO R Mode (Free), Shrink it with DVDShrink (Free) and Burn it with DVDDecrypter again Free or Nero if you have it…… Nothing else needed.. I never said that you could EDIT the ISO Image or to my knowledge ever implied it.. Some of you have attacked me personally; some of you have defended me.. Thanks to you both, that’s what makes horse racing…….. I LOVE a good scrap..LOL If you intend on doing the GEEK thing with VobBlanker, PgcEdit, FixVYS, IFOEdit, PSL2 plugins, etc., etc, Then more Power to Ya! For a Newbie with the question “How do I copy Sky High?” this might just be the answer without telling him to Buy AnyDVD and CloneDVD2. I have been on AD for a short time, 6 months or so and during that time I have only “started” 1 thread and it was not really a question. Search the threads I have participated in and count the questions I have asked… I feel that my knowledge of computers is enough that I can work any problem out for myself without asking a lot of questions or getting feedback from the masses. Scuba Pete’s Guide is not the best because it doesn’t have a lot of pretty pictures to look at. It does, however, show how to set Decrypter for the aggressive mode and uses the ISO Read Mode of Decrypter to copy a Movie, thereby eliminating all the “Copy Protection”. Like I have said TRY IT….. Then, after you have tried it, lay the pertinent questions on me. But please no questions that are off the subject or that attack my knowledge of Fortran, Cobal, Assembly, Pascal, Basic, C Basic, Z Basic, or at the bottom where I started Machine Code! Unlike Henry Ford, I have lived through the evolution of the computer from keying in programs with a keypad set up for Octal or Hexadecimal to DOS and Windows using High level programming languages and it has been a great experience …………. I Truly hope that all who read this thread can glean a lot of useful information from it… Thanks Guys..
@2oldGeek I was not and or did not intented to attack you personally or anything. Here's what I said; "according to my understanding and experiences, both MODE, File F or MODE, ISO, READ are likely to bypass and or rip the movies successfully into the hard drive, if the individual knows how to use it (DVD Decrypter)." However, I did said; "I slightly agree with sophocles that ripping with Mode, File F, you'll have more control over the movie (VIDEO_TS or IFO file), especially if you're going to "blank, edit, cut, etc." Just thought that I want to clear things up only. Cheers
Hey alcohol, I heard what you were saying.. I do have the ability to read very well.. LOL I totally agree “If you’re going to blank, edit, cut, etc.” then File F is the way to go…. No argument… But, as I said if you just want to remove any Copy Protection and back the disk up, it can easily be done with Decrypter in the ISO Mode……. That was my statement, Nothing else… You make beautiful Guides.. Keep up the good work for those who Need it…. Live long and prosper….
@2oldGeek As you may have already known that both you and I (we), like freewares (ie DVD Decrypter, DVDFAB Decrypter, DVD Shrink, etc.) I guess I'm a "VobBlanker-holic" and sometimes "PgcEdit-holic", LOL. Yep, all of my guides are no required for AnyDVD or DVD43. Thanks for the compliment. As a matter of fact, I've just did a very simple (super basic) "mini guide" for "Lord Of War & American Pie Band Camp" a while ago, using DVD Decrypter or DVDFAB Decrypter and VobBlanker 2.1.0.0, when I was replying to a few of the thread in this forum. Cheers now and keep up the good work (helping Newbies when issues arise).
@ h8flp21, Sorry if you thought you were overlooked… LOL Yes, use both, remove the VOB and IFO PUO’s Per This little Guide: In DVDDecrypter go to: Tools -> Settings -> Try these settings for General Tab Options – Removal Method – Aggressive File Mode Tab Options – Remove PUOs (IFO and VOB) ISO Read Mode Tab Options – Remove PUOs (IFO and VOB) CSS Tab CSS Cracking Method Brute Force -> I/O Key Exchange On Failure – Yes I/O Tab Options – Ignore read errors If you are using AnyDVD then there is no need to use DVDDecrypter.. Only if you have a problem disc and then sometimes it will work better… I normally backup with AnyDVD+ DVDShrink “Movie Only” and burn with Nero On Special Occasions, when I want it ALL, then I backup to a DL disc using Decrypter in the ISO Read / ISO Write Mode……. On the DVD-ROM thing, it’s great to keep all your backups compatible with all the players. That is, if your drive is capable of bit setting.. To learn more go here: http://www.k-probe.com/bitsetting-booktype-faq.php#BitSettingLinks Have a Happy..
