Crash Restart, video related?

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  1. TomMelee

    TomMelee Regular member

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    Hi folks, I do a lot of helping, so I'm hoping someone can lend me a hand.

    I occasionally suffer a crash restart, but only while playing certain games.

    Specifically, it used to happen with shadowbane...eventually I would crash restart. Sometimes after 10 minutes, sometimes after 3 hours.

    Recently it just started happening again w/ the game "condemned", which seems to be a really cool game if I could play for 10 minutes w/o restarting.

    I know I'm virus/spyware/etc free, I can only imagine it is related to my video, but I honestly don't know.

    I replaced my video card, and it still happens, running a GeForce 6800 right now, and the crash happens regardless of whether or not I unlock the extra pipes. It happened on my old card too, which was a Radeon 9200.

    I also replaced my sound card, to no avail.

    Basically, I'll be playing, the sound will go something like "What are you dddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddd" ...blink, restart.

    Any suggestions? Ideas? I'm fairly sure it's not related to overheating, I've got a big ol' Thermaltake sink on there, no thermal alarms. I've tried a wide variety of drivers, but since the problem persists, I'm lost. I also changed cases, got a new power supply, and yet it continues...

    Oh...and if anyone else has figured out a fix to the Nvidia ForceWare problem where the mouse freezes...I'd love to hear that too. (Short of turning down hardware accelleration and/or turning on mouse trails, as they bugger up the mouse in games.)

    System specs:
    Mobo: Asus P4S800
    Chip: 2.8GHz Prescott
    768 Mb PC3200 ram...generic
    Geforce 6800
    Soundblaster Live! 24 bit sound card.

    I'm open to any suggestions...please?!
     
  2. TomMelee

    TomMelee Regular member

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    Lol...well, here's an update:

    Turned off automatic restart after crash last night hoping for a bluescreen...

    and instead, it just locked when it finally crashed.

    I checked my temps, and they were CRAZY high, looks like it's time to take 'er apart and clean 'er up, but, I have no idea that that's actually the problem.

     
  3. Morph416

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    Might want to toss in some tests as well. Memory, sound.....video benchmarks...see what's causing what to heat up.

    Assuming you have the latest drivers for all your devices, it's possible that one of them may be the issue as well.
     
  4. dejahboi

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    if i were you, if overheating is a great big cause...open up that case, check all fans to see if they are operational and clean the dust, make sure wires are not gettin caught onto fans, [bold]others[/bold] mention drivers and software related issues, check those too, and make sure, you dont try to overload you videocard with the game specs, that'll fry it lol, just make sure you card can handle your prefered configs.
     
  5. TomMelee

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    Well, I just got done cleaning 'er out. Took it completely apart and cleaned everything...that is to say dusted w/ compressed air, took off the heatsink and cleaned the old dried on Arctic Silver off w/ alcohol, same on the heatsink. It took the better part of 2 entire cans to clean all the dust, lol, didn't realise I had that much electro static crap in my room...

    Anyway, I had to rebuild w/o any arctic silver, because Best Buy was out. I guess I'll order some from newegg or someplace, maybe ebay.

    Right now my ambient chip temp, only running Motherboard Monitor 5, ink saver, and firefox...is 109. Not toooo bad I guess, but too hot for ambient load, which is to say <5%.

    Case temp is fine, I move a lot of air, ambient 77 degrees right now.

    I snagged memtest86 last night and burnt the bootable ISO (no floppy drive for me) and it got stuck in a restart loop, lol. Slick, huh? I guess I'll throw in a floppy drive real fast and see if that'll boot for me. I know the drive is fine, it just didn't like the iso for some reason.

    I've run several video benchmarks previously, never had a problem. I run my everything FAR below what the 6800 can do, but I'll run 'em again. I guess I'll head over to guru3d and grab one.

    I've examined the fault dumps and can't really do anything w/ them, anybody know of a crash-interceptor along the lines of what Norton used to have? At least so I can get some kind of diagnostic info about why I'm locking? XP MUST be what is forcing the reboot, because like I said, I turned off auto-reboot and it just sat there, frozen.

    Still...feel free to suggest alternative memory testors, video benchmarks, etc to me.





     
  6. TomMelee

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    Hrm...well, memtest says no errors. So that's nice.

    Just installed the newest 6800 drivers, but still no solution.
     
  7. yamumma

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    when you boot up the computer press f8 and select
    "disable crash restart" and boot up normalling
    :)
     
  8. TomMelee

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    I mean I disabled the autorestart w/ crash w/i system settings hoping to see the crash when it happened, but it just locked.

    I startup and run fine, and actually the game hasn't crashed again...yet, but that's because I haven't played it much.

    My ambient temp is around 109, but my full load is only around 134, so maybe the thermaltake fan speeds up when it gets warm, I don't know.

     
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    this problem has and is still happening to me wid halo

    i just put and the graphics and even sound qiuly fully down
    i works 90% of the time but now and then is does restart!!!
     
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    it could be your ram...
     
  11. TomMelee

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    Heh, I just ran memtest86 for 14 hours straight, over 70 passes on each stick, no errors detected.

    So far, here's what I've done:
    I forgot I'd unlocked extra pipes on my 6800, I turned them back off.

    I turned down my native screen resolution...it was too high anyway.

    I removed my expansion USB card, because I got an error on it yesterday after I cleaned everything and bothered to find out why it hadn't been working...answer, it wasn't in the slot quite far enough, so I fixed that, USB worked, but...then I crashed w/ a USB error...so...bye bye expansion card!

    I updated to the newest, freshest nvidia forcewear drivers.

    I cleaned out all the dust...

    It actually let me play for a long time last night, maybe it's fixt...I dunno.

    /shrug
     
  12. dejahboi

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    well, just post on more updaters...if everythings okay...well yeah, right on lol
     
  13. TomMelee

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    LOL.

    Well, I played for maybe an hour today, no problems.

    However, now I'm getting bluescreens on things I've NEVER gotten them on before, like AnyDVD today gave me a BSOD.

    I think the restart bug is fixt now though...

    I just uninstalled a buncha crap, reran my registry mechanic, I guess I'll just play it by ear from here.
     
  14. dejahboi

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    you sure you dont have some infectious virus or some sort....cause man, your haven too much problems with your computer lol...well as long as your satisfied, just do what you do
     

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