Denon 1906

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  1. permiggs

    permiggs Regular member

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    Hi all.

    I just got rid of my old system and bought a completely new set:
    Telly - LG 42" plasma
    Front speakers - TDL 10 floorstanders
    Rear speakers - Kef Cresta 10
    Centre Speaker - Mordaunt Short 905c
    Receiver - Denon 1906

    I have set it up the same way as i did with my old Marantz, and altough i can get by with the setup in the conventional unit display i think there's more things to tune with the OSD. I've tried to hook it up in every way i can think of but i'm still in the dark... The manual might be in 5837 diferent languages but it's a bit vague on how to do it.
    My previous system had a 5.1 layout (no sub, towers instead.) and i want to keep it like that because my living room is a bit too small to take 7.1, but i can't find any way to change the setup from 7.1 to 5.1 in the receiver.
    Thanks.

    (Oi Gerry, me old mukka, where are you?)
     
  2. gerry1

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    permiggs, me buddy....how the hell are ya? Where have you been my friend and favorite rascal LOL! Do you have the AVR set up to show its menus on the TV. If so, you just push the "SYS Setup" on the Denon remote. From the menu on your TV screen, choose "Speaker Setup" and push the enter button on the remote. There you'll see each and every one of the 7.1 listed one at a time....Front RIght, Center, Front left etc etc. You must choose from large, small, none to send the proper frequency response to the sub which you're not using ... duh....turn that one to "none" which will make it a 5.0 LOL! If you turn any of your speakers to "small" without a sub, I have no idea what will happen. I know, with the fronts set to small but no sub, your system won't work. I don't know about the center and rears. I would say set them all to large first at low volume to see if all five work properly then adjust as needed ... if possible. My guess is you can turn the rear speakers to "small" without a sub, but not the fronts.

    Let me know how you make out guy!! Have you been in the can or something you felon?

    Edit: just looked at your manual and my instructions are correct; i figured it had to be the same as mine and it is. See pages nine and ten.
     
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  3. permiggs

    permiggs Regular member

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    Sorted mate, thanks, i just bought another pair of KEF's to make it a 7.0. Do you think it's worth adding a sub, because my floorstanders are really (house shaking) bassy already...

    Another thing, when you set the speakers to small, what does that mean? Does that mean they are 'seen' by the amp as the little components and therefore require a sub? I mean, my KEF's aren't exactly big (they're bookshelf items), but mate, they do kick ass, even the bass is strong! They pi$$ all over my old Missions without even trying...
     
  4. gerry1

    gerry1 Guest

    Howdy Permiggs! Glad its working well! Well, with larger speakers (towers and bookshelf) you don't NEED a sub but it rather depends just how "kickass" you want your bass to be. The sub was invented because of a problem they haven't yet been able to solve ... the lower the frequencies go, the proportionately more powerful the amp must be as the frequecies decent ... unfortunately, wattage isn't variable as the frequencies get lower so it's the lower mid range and particularly the bass that suffers. Subs were made to compensate for this and now the big thing is active fronts to push the lower mid ranges. So, it all depends on whether you want more power to your bass or not. WHen the sub is turned off in the Denon's speaker configuration menu, any LFE signal is routed through the main so you're still o.k.

    When you listed to music, you'll want your speakers set to large but, even if you have large speakers, it is OFTEN preferable to set them to "small" when watching movies. Yes, you absolutelyl MUST have a sub when you set your speakers to small because it will "clip" the frequency response and send a good half of the mid range through the sub. This sucks when you listen to music but it can be awesome with movies. When watching movies though, you'll find that setting speakers to "small" often emphasizes sound effects whizzing around the room. It does that by channeling all the non directional frequencies though the sub so that the only remaining sound is "directional" and therefor more easily perceived by the ear.

    So:
    1. You don't need a sub with large speakers, but I'd get one when it's financially conventient.

    2. Yes, you do need a sub when you set speakers to small.
    3. Music always sounds better with the speakers set to large.
    4. Movies often sound better with speakers set to small, even if they are large.

    Let me know how you make out!
     

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