i have been on a member here since aug 2007, although you would never no, my only post's are thank you, this is because i read the threads and find solutions to any problems i have, i have looked through different web sites and this is by far the best, i browse every nite, i am aware of the dislike for multiple threads, but on this occasion i am desperate, i have searched this forum and for the life of me cannot get a definate solution to my problem. I have two starview boxes one with 25x7 vents and one with 20x8 but are the same every other way, any suggestions plz, by the way without sounding like a brown nose you guys are superb,