eh, a lot of you don't seem to know much about the other consoles. MOST gmaes for ps2 are between 3 and 4.7 gigs. they definitely do use all of their space on many, many games. also DVD-5 discs are the same thing as 4.7 discs. That is just the exact size of them, but they are called DVD-5. There are also a handful of ps2 games that are dual layered: Xenosaga Episode 1: Der Wille zur Macht The Guy Game God of War Sakura Taisen Atsuki Chishio Ni Metal Gear Solid 2: Substance Kessen 3 Champions Of Norrath: Realms Of EverQuest Madden NFL 2005: Collector's Edition Gran Turismo 4 The new consoles will be making use of high-definition video. This is where the blu-ray discs will come in handy. Game developers will no longer have to juggle around with making sure everything fits. They will have plenty of room to do whatever they want.