www.discmarket.com A bit more expensive then Metitline or Rima but for $4.99 (shipping) I can't complain about the free discs. Here is the info on them. Manufacturer : TYG02 Code : - Disc Type : DVD-R Usage : General Recording Layer : - Recording Speed : 4 X - 16 X Capacity : 4.38 GB 4706076672 Bytes Additional Capacity : - Overburn Capacity : - On the site they are listed as 8x speed. I used the special URL & code on the card that came with my Plextor DVDRW (px 716a) drive & they just arrived by UPS. Inside the box was a 25 disc cakebox with 15 DVD-R's in it, a DVD mailer sample, 15 paper sleeves & a DVD video with a plant tour. Not bad! They gave me more then I asked for... I think I'm set on DVD's for awhile. 10 Maxells (bought at Walgreens the other day.) 3 Imation 2x Ritek G03's I got from my dad plus the 12 disc DVD-R sampler from Rima. 40 discs to burn.