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DMS4 SE Lite VS. Matrix Infinity

Discussion in 'PS2 - Hardware boot discussion' started by caliwest, Jan 5, 2006.

  1. Tokijin

    Tokijin Active member

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    Soulcity, resize your sig before one of the moderator's sees it. The features of the MI, DMS 4, and CC are all comparable. They autoboot everything, support DVD-9 or Dual Layer games, have a built in Y-fix (so you can play PAL games on an NTSC PS2 flawlessly or vice versa), support multi disk games, PGen and SNES station, ARMAX and Gameshark, boot elfs off the Memory Card (or off the chip in the case of the DMS 4 Pro SE), support HD Loader and HD Advance, and , makes your PS2 a region free DVD player. Matrix Chips are well known for their durability, DMS chips are probably more feature packed than any other modchip out there, and the Crystal Chip is the only chip that auto patches DNA ID's for online play. When playing a backup online, you have to patch the game's DNA ID, so that the online game server doesn't detect it's a copy. The Crystal Chip does this automatically. They're all quality chips. If playing backups online is important to you, probably go with the CC.
     
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  2. dgm08

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    Is it that hard to patch the games for online play with DMS4 or MI? Does the autopatching work well? Does Crystal Chip 1.1 autopatch the games or is it just 2.0? What makes Crystal Chip worse than DMS4 or MI? Is the boot rate really that much worse? Thank you.
     
  3. Tokijin

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    Well check out the specs for all of them. They're about the same minus the differences I pointed out. Tech specs: http://teammodders.com/ps2_mc.php?ex=2

    The auto patching works real well from what I understand. I don't think CC v2.0 Pro is out yet. CC 1.1 Pro does autopatch the DNA's, yes. http://crystal-chips.com/main/content/view/69/57/lang,en/

    I think the boot rate for any good chip is about the same- 99.9%. The only game I know of that has mod protection for the PS2 is Rugby League 2. RL2 is an obscure title released in Europe, the UK, and Australia that will never the see the light of day in the U.S. Aside from that any one of those chips will boot any backups you have after they have been flashed. Matrix Chips are user friendly, durable and very effective, DMS chips are a little more user intensive but still simple and very poweful, The Crystal Chip requires hacked firmware to boot backups, and offers the same functionality and simple user interface. Don't let the hacked part scare you, the official firmware doesn't boot backups for legal reasons. In a number of places modchips are illegal like Korea and the UK. The "hacked" firmware is simply the official firmware modified so that it can boot backups and imports in countries where they're still legal (like the U.S.). You can find the hacked firmware a number of places, here's the latest release. : http://www.eurasia.nu/modules.php?n...s&lid=2798&ttitle=cc_firmware_hacked_R19_(src

    Also here (You don't have to sign up for this one): http://www.forumconsolas.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1213

    Here's more info on the CC2.0 http://forums.maxconsole.net/archive/index.php/t-10884.html

    Truth be told I've never played any PS2 backups online, so I've never patched the DNA's. I've helped several people with the process though, and in my opinion if playing PS2 backups online is important to you, you should probably go with the Crystal Chip. It has all the same features and quality as the others, and it auto patches the DNA's. Patching the DNA's isn't really that complicated, but it's not something you'd want to have to bother with all the time either.

    Here's the patching process:

    20. Q. What are DNA's?
    A. Any game made after 2003 for the PS2 that is online playable contains one or more image files that has a "disk
    DNA checker." The online game server checks your game disk to see if it's the real thing or not. Thus, you have to discover which .img file on the game disc has the checker file.

    21. Q. How do I patch DNA's?
    A. http://www.ps2nfo.com/on-line.html

    22. Q. Where can I find DNA ID's?
    A. NTSC-US: http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/199101C
    PAL: http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/198137
     
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  4. dgm08

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    Wow! You have been so helpfull. I Think that I will go with Crystal Chip then. It seems easy enough to upgrade to a hacked firmware. One last thing, though. Does the firmware look different than the official PS2 one. If so do you know where I can get screen shots. I can't find any. Thank you so much.
     
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    Yeah you won't go wrong with any of the chips I mentioned. They're all top of the line. Good job on doing your homework first. Most people just get whatever and end up with crap chips or get lucky and end up with a good one. I prefer the research approach. One thing I forgot to add: you need a laser fix if you have a slim PS2. Any slim that is modded [bold]requires[/bold] a laser fix. I couldn't find any screenshots of the CC Firmware menu, sorry.

    26. Q. I'm in the market for a modchip or premodded console. What are some reputable sites I can order from?
    A. http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/251223 In addition http://www.modchip.com and http://www.norcalmods.com are supposed to be reliable. http://www.Xmodds.com is another quality mod site. If you're interested in a premod or modchip, be sure to order from one of these high quality sites.

    Note: v.12-14 PS2's will need a laser fix like the neo fix. This is necessary to keep the laser from burning out.

    From KC36330, a professional modder and member of AD:

    If your modder didn't install a laser fix then most likely your laser is now on its way out. All V12-V14 PS2's require the laser fix, especially modded consoles. Even a new unmodded slimline PS2 can burn the laser out in as little as a few hours of game play.
    Laser fix info: http://www.modchip.com/ps2/v12laserfix.htm
     
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  6. dgm08

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    I was going to order from trustedmods.com
    They seemed very good, and their price was nice.
    Others threads around here suggested them.
     
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    As long as your comfortable with them. Are you planning on installing the chip yourself? If so make sure you're an experienced solderer. Or did you mean trustedmods.com is going to install the chip for you?
     
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    No, I was going to buy a premod. I have screwed up other consoles before, so there is probably no way I would be able to do a PS2. Don't the modchips have around 19 or so wires?
     
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    Yeah 18 or 19 wires is normal. Good decision to pay a pro. I wouldn't touch a soldering iron with a ten foot pole. I paid teammodders.com to install a Matrix Infinity in my v.4. I couldn't be happier with the results.
     
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    There's more than one reputable mod installer on the internet. Do you have some proof trustedmods.com isn't legit? It sounds to me like you're just trying to steer business towards your guy. Now I'm sure you're guy is reputable and I'm glad he did a job on your PS2, but dgm08 is free to to make up his own mind. He's done his homework thus far, I assume he did his homework on trustedmods.com as well. I'm not having a dig at you, just think he can make up his own mind. Cheers!
     
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    Yea, I know, but this is the cheapest price you will EVER find. Im sure trustedmods doesn't have $180 chubby V7 w/ DMS4 Pro premods or even slim ones with DMS4 Pro SE or any other chip for $180. This is with shipping. I was just trying to get him the best price for his money, because in way, its the same thing buying a premod from any modder, you always get a warranty, and wherever u have to pay for one, you stay away from there.
     
  13. Tokijin

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    That's definitely a good price. If you can vouch for this guy, maybe it's worthwhile. Either way, he'll have to decide that for himself. Peace.
     
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    Yea, I can, I bought my premodded V7 from him, with DMS4 Pro and he flashed it already with ToxicOS, and he installs a brand new laser and also the best one, the 400c, on all of his premods, so u can play games really good and homebrew/backups ones will load really fast and wont stress your laser. I would know, my modded PS2 V7 seems to load a bit faster in the company intro screens than my older unmodded V7. And there's the fact that the V7 is the best model of PS2's out and chubby's are better than the slim ones, and shipping is included, while u get charged $15 at trustedmods.

    And a 3-month warranty. He's also selling a $20 brand new Logitech PS2 wireless controller and 2 brand new Sony mem cards for $30(1 for $15) if anybody wanted them too, and a while back he was giving away a brand new network adapter with a V7 for $180, but I bought mines before.

    He also got me my premod in 2 days, 1 less, and he lives in California and I'm in NY(C). Across the country.>_>

    I would suggest this to him, would save him a lot of money, and then he can buy more accesories and DVD+R's, a DVD burner too if he doesn't have one, but I doubt it.
     
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    Well I don't if there is any "best" version PS2. After v.4 most of them read DVD+R's fine. v.4 PS2's are 50/50 as far as reading DVD+R's. v.1-3 Don't read DVD+R's well at all. When using DVD+R's you should always booktype them to DVD-ROM. The slim PS2's, especially v.12's, require a laser fix to keep the laser from burning out. Even an unmodded slim can fry it's laser in a short amount of time. I admit all this sounds like a good deal. I'm a little wary of someone giving away that much free stuff, and really low prices. $20 for the Logitech Cordless controller?! I got mine at Wal-Mart for $40. It's a really nice controller and I haven't had to replace the batteries once. A couple questions.

    1. How is this guy able to sell stuff at prices that are %25 lower than anybody else on the internet? (That Logitech Controller for instance, I looked around online and the cheapest I found it for was like $33).

    2. Where does he get his supplies from?

    3. I haven't read the one link you posted all the way through, but has anybody else on this site use modman and can verify the long term quality of his work?

    Sorry I might be a cynic, but something about this doesn't add up to me. I'm not calling you a liar or saying that he isn't as good as advertised, I just am curious. Cheers!
     
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    I did some poking around dms3.com. This guy is shady as hell. His real name is peteroose. He's changed his name like 10 times, you can guess why. Think I'm BSing, check here: http://web02063.prolocation.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=9264&highlight=petroose

    http://web02063.prolocation.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=10262&highlight=modman

    http://web02063.prolocation.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=9076&highlight=peteroose

    Do you really want this guy to mod your PS2 lol:
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    That's just the tip of the iceberg. Feel free to do your own research. People avoid this [bold]con-artist[/bold] at all costs.
     
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    You've fallen into their trap too....I thought the same thing when I got there, but quickly found out he was real, there is no proof, everybody's scared of competition, because his prices are the cheapest, he can sell them for cheap cause he makes a small profit and its a hobby to him, not a job, I've talked to him on AIM and e-mail. He's not shady or anything, u can trust him, I did, and I got my PS2 premod perfectly, there's nothing wrong with it or about it. He probably has the Logitech wireless controller going for $20 cause he might've gotten it for free or something as a gift, or bought it a long time ago but never used it. I'm telling u, dont believe what everyone else says, I was thinking about spending $250 on a premod, but then I thought thats too much, and is he's as fake as they say, why would he have real customers and real tracking numbers? And there is no proof or complaining customers.
     
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    Yeah I got all the backstory on Peteroose I needed. People avoid this guy at all costs. These guys might cost a little more but the quality of their work is garunteed. Use of one of the reputable modders posted here:

    26. Q. I'm in the market for a modchip or premodded console. What are some reputable sites I can order from?
    A. http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/251223 In addition http://www.modchip.com and http://www.norcalmods.com are supposed to be reliable. http://www.Xmodds.com is another quality mod site. If you're interested in a premod or modchip, be sure to order from one of these high quality sites.
     
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    You've come to an early decision for no reason, once again, there is no solid proof whatsoever, no complaining customers and no other evidence...look at all the buyers in his thread, ate they happy? Yes. Has anyone, that HAS BOUGHT FROM HIM, said he did a bad job or steal from them? NO. Buyers are all that matters, everyone else can make up whatever crap they want...people would do anything to destroy the competition and make money...Honestly, he is LEGIT, and there's no proof but other MODDERS COMPETEING with him saying's he's a con...and NO BUYERS giving a bad review...kind of funny isn't it?
     
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    Look you might sucker some weak willed people in with your cheesy sales pitch. I have nothing further to say on the matter. Truthfully I think you're just him in disguise. Even if you're not, I don't care. I would go with someone I know to be a quality modder over a guy who looks like he should be in the special olympics. Anybody who hands this guy $200 and their PS2 with all the questions looming about his character deserves what they get. I've said my piece and will be unsubscribing to this thread. Peace.
     

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