Do I need to rip everything?

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  1. bui_jsph

    bui_jsph Member

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    For DVD-RB do i have to rip the whole disc to use dvd-rb or can i just rip the main movie only?
     
  2. brobear

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    As long as the rip is DVD compliant all you need is the main movie. But with the compression abilities of RB with one of the supported encoders, I never understand why people want to edit so much. In case you hadn't noticed, RB does the movie only option from it's settings, at least the Pro version does.
     
  3. bui_jsph

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    okay thank you
     
  4. BigDK

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    I think the basic version doesn't let you do just the main movie, only the whole disk, you'll need to use the pro version for just the film.
     
  5. pazzini

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    You can use vobblanker to cut everything out then use DVD-RB. so you dont need the pro version.

    But it is worth the money.
     
  6. thugs121

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    You can use Dvd Shrink or Nero Recode to encode the main movie only by setting the target output to [bold]DVD-9[/bold] instead of [bold]DVD-5[/bold] or the suggested [bold]4360[/bold], then use Rebuilder (free version) to process the movie.
     
  7. IHoe

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    the pro version will do just the movie only...... do you have to RIP at all!? I recently used AnyDVD and then used RB Pro/CCE, took the source file right from the DVD (NO RIPPING TO THE HARD DRIVE!). I didn't know you can do that and it worked fine! So if you take this thread title litterally, then the answer is: You don't have to do any ripping at all when you have a great product like AnyDVD!
     
  8. brobear

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    You can do it straight from the DVD with RB, but with the transfer rate of a DVD drive compared to a hard drive, you lose a lot of time. Do a time trial if you need to prove it to yourself, do an RB backup from DVD and then from a source on the hard drive. Some things that can be done still end up being a waste of time.

    RB is so good, it's often a waste of time to edit. Even the free version lets the user select languages and audio tracks. I don't guess jdobbs wants to give everything away. If one likes RB, then spring for the RB Pro. The bells and whistles are worth it. I like having them, even if I don't use them all the time. ;)
     
  9. IHoe

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    I'll have to do a time test to try that out. I'll also include the time it takes to rip the DVD to the drive..... sometimes about 12-18mins. So that will have to be considered, too.
     
  10. brobear

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    Of course the rip time should be included. You should still see a noticable time difference working from the HDD with RB.
     
  11. bui_jsph

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    Thank you IHoe you have answered my question the way I wanted. Thank you very much.
     
  12. brobear

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    I'm glad IHoe was able to furnish the information you needed. For future reference, what was it that you needed to know that I somehow missed? I like to learn from my mistakes.
     
  13. IHoe

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    you're so funny BroBear..... I learned so much from YOU!~ So if I get a compliment.... it's really because I learned from the masters, all before me! And I didn't do much at all...... as I said.... I learned from YOU!
     
  14. L8ter

    L8ter Guest

    since most hd's have sata connections these day's and most drives have ide connections (at least mine) some newer drives are 16x read speeds they are catching up. but you will not get the speeds out of your dvd-rw that your hd is capable of.

    if you do not get buffer/cache overrun's you will be fine but if one or the other outpaces the other you will be serving drinks on your nice new shiny coasters, plus editing is out of the ?.


    @ brobear do you ever get a cramp typing?? :)

    here is a summary......
    yes you can encode directly from your dvd-rw.



     
  15. brobear

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    Question:
    For DVD-RB do i have to rip the whole disc to use dvd-rb [bold]or can i just rip the main movie only?[/bold]

    LOL To answer the question exactly as asked without adding any superfluous remarks; you [bold]can just rip the main movie only[/bold] as long as it is kept compliant.

    [bold]Question: Can I? Answer: You can.[/bold]

    As for the first part of the question [bold]do i have to rip the whole disc[/bold], the answer is [bold]no[/bold].

    IHoe
    You deserve your compliments and keep up the good work. I was just asking bui_jsph if I need to be a bit more clairvoyant with my answers. LOL By the way, how did that time test come out?

    L8
    It would be nice if I could get the 16X read speeds on the DVD movies. As IHoe pointed out earlier, some discs take nearly 20 minutes. Monitoring read speads, I seldom go over 8X. That's one of the options I still keep DVD Decrypter around for, it gives read time plus the over all average. Even without buffer overruns, the optical drives can't handle data as fast as the hard drives. With RB, especially with CCE (where the data has to be analyzed more than once) the use of the hard drive for the source is faster. We noticed earlier in beta testing RB that HDD files were preferable.
     
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  16. L8ter

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    since the new build I've noticed a sever drop in rip times reaching speeds of nearly 14x (on clean disks), resulting in like 8 min rips since it takes a while to spin up to speed.

    I've failed to comment on this because I've not had the time or knowledge to pinpoint the reason, it's the only ide channel I have connected and no slaves??.

    yes our pioneering forefathers put in good work. (even though I love to pick it apart,:} ) I alway's turn to passed down knowledge to cure what ails me.

     
  17. brobear

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    Now you've gone and lost me. New build in what that dropped rip times?
     
  18. bui_jsph

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    brobear
    Sorry, but being the newbie I am, I just didn't understand what your statement of "As long as the rip is DVD compliant all you need is the main movie." So that is why I took IHoe's advice.
     
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  19. brobear

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    No problem. But if you don't understand something, feel free to ask. Saying DVD compliant means that the files you rip have to be in a recordable and playable form. Without getting complicated, burner apps won't burn noncompliant files and RB has a tendency to stop in rebuild.

    I was just saying be safe in the way you do a movie only rip. DVD Shrink is an easy method if that's what you want to do. Use it in Re-author with "no compression" and rip the movie only to the HD and then open with RB. As has been mentioned, the RB Pro has the movie only option.

    Unless you have a huge project, I wouldn't worry about the extra steps. What I added is that RB can easily compress most DVDs with a single language and audio selection without any need of editing. I have a 60" TV and I have no problems with the compressed video output. The family can't tell the difference between watching the original and the backup.
     
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  20. L8ter

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    dvd format is governed by a set of guidelines & measures set forth by the dvd consortium some years ago. compliance to these rules is not strictly stuck to by all, but to ensure that all players will read the content presented by the disk it's best to stay compliant.

    here is a link to some more (useless) info :) >>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DVD_Forum

    here's another >>

    http://www.dvdforum.org/forum.shtml

     
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