Downloading and burning: not good to be doing anything else on com @ same time?

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  1. gbroman

    gbroman Regular member

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    Hi. I've been d-loading a heap of music and at the same time using the computer 2 compile/delete/move other files/folders into place.
    Mate had a CD that was sticking at same place when he played in his car system. Did a check of CD using Nero 8> Speed Info Tool > Disc Check and the CD was well yellowed out (damaged), but had no'Bad' sectors.D-loaded his & 2 other albums by same artist and sent them to CD. Hash-checking after D-load and verifying data on CD after I burnt to CD was all ok. I used iTunes 7 from which to burn the CD's.
    He tells me that 2 of the three CD's have a slight 'sticking' prob. As he can't tell me on which tracks the prob occurs(?)I can't check on my com if there's a prob there in in my burning engines, or if I shouldn't be 'drag-dropping' other things while I'm recording to disc: HDD or CD media.
    I have been listening to a compilation that I D-loaded yesterday and find that the odd track is 'dropping out' for a brief second but it isn't sticking, stuttering, or jumping backwards a little. Moving the played/remaining time slider backwards a little to get a repeat of the glitch at the same place does nothing: song cruises past the previous drop-out.
    At the moment I don't have a lot of apps running on the com and have sufficient RAM to cope.
    Basically I hope that I haven't got drop-outs scattered willy-nilly throughout about 25GB of music just got of our mutual friend. I can go the long way to find/reget the tracks that I may have corrupted at d-load/burn time, but a trawl through 25+ GB of data isn't going to be a giggle at all at all : {

    All of the hardwareand software that I use is sweet as. Here's a bit of a rundown of what I use;;;
    Compaq Presario S3010AN (FIC AM35 MoBo)
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    Asus 1814BL Lightscribe Multi DL DVD RAM RW
    80GB Western Digital HDD (EIDE)
    30GB Bigfoot Slave(IDE) from out of the Ark :>
    Onboard sound (AC 97)recent updated drivers

    I have other software that I use to create usable media but I won't list them here, only that which I used to make the CD's I mentioned. When mate is back I will try the CD's in my com and see if they play up. ( if he can remember which tracks they are and that at the time he wasn't driving over cattle-stop bars, or worse still, taking a shortcut using the railway track to wherever %?
    Advice welcomed.
    Cheers
     
  2. gbroman

    gbroman Regular member

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    ps. Media used to write to is TDK CD-R or Verbatum CD-R. TDK in this case.
     
  3. Mez

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    I am not sure I fuly understand your problem. You provided too much info.

    If you have a bad burn product get better media or slow the burn down. If you can't slow the burn down get better software unless you are burning at 1x. Then get a better burner. We have burner (hardware) and media forums on this board. Post that kind of question there.

    Read this thread completely http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/729302
     
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    mez, thanks for your reply. There's not a problem with the burner I have or the media that I use to create CD's or DVD's. Burn speed is set automatically and I haven't before created a cd or dvd that is faulty.,,,well perhaps 2% have been.That has been using TDK Gold or Verbatum CD-R or RW to create CD's on iTunes6/7, Nero 7 now Nero8 Ultra, Power ISO, ImageBurn, Alcohol 120%, Ashampoo Burning Studio 8.......whatever. DVD's go on the same media using virtually same devices.
    Basically, my query was and still is, Whilst one is downloading from a source-internet or optic drive -to computer HDD can using the computer(multi-tasking)to do other things @ the same time cause 'dropouts'and resultant media that is 'blemished'. Obviously, I cannot be using the optic drive to Import and Export from/computer or optical drive, at the same time. Even if I had two optical drives ( which I do have)...unless there is some new software or home computer that I don't know about.
    That's about it really,except for this.. I notice sometimes that while I am using the computer to browse the Internet or I am working on the computer opening and closing windows, drag-dropping files/folders whatever...and I am listening to 'background' music at the same time, the sound cuts out when I open/close---drag/drop blah blah..is this happening and stuffing up sections of that which I am Importing to HDD?
    Crikey, this is getting difficult...even I'm getting confused now.
    Old Chinaman said to me wheh I asked him advice question:::" Ahhh...Confused us say....." Hmmmm....wondeer whee that old coot is today..; )
     
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    Does the music play fine on the HD?

    You may not be able to multi task while you are burning disks. You may be able to get away with it. I usually can but not always.
     
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    Cheers for your reply Mez and sorry I'm late in replying.

    Sometimes the sound would drop out when I was playing music from computer HDD. This is what bothered me because I had just loaded to the HDD about 20GB of MP3's while multi-tasking.Computer decided to freeze, BSOD, ..you name it, com did it. Complete reformat etc. Not sticking now but I still have the same brief loss of sound-glitch, occasionally.

    Latest puzzle: when I go to burn to optical media I receive a message basically stating " Device O has a bad block": I assume that this is referring to the Asus DRW RAM 1814BL DL Multi I use. It is clean and runs freely so that only leaves the media-possibly being sub-quality. I used Transonic CD-R & DVD+RW. Not the best media its said but I've not had probs with those I used 2 year back. I couldn't get any TDK's so I bought the Tranny's. DVD+R RW are supposed to be a bad choice to use for backing-up ones collection. Any backup media is perishable for that matter.

    Used the internet to become informed as to the meaning behind the'Bad block' message: pointed towards HDD having bad section (blocks). Tested HDD's with HDD Inspector program I have running, passes 100% on all counts.
    Checked optical media using Nero 8.3.0.3 Ultra Disc Speed's 'Quality & Scan' utilities. No errors found there either.
    Beats me.
    As for the 2 CD's I burnt for my mate, I have not yet tried them in my computer or on a stand-alone player. Excuse:: got engrossed in the problems of a computer that for 3 weeks was growing troublesome.

    Listening to some songs that are on HDD couple of nights back and the sound dropped out for a 1/4 second,two or three times per song; move the play indicator slider back to a spot before the drop-out > wait for it to drop-out again and, you guessed it, doesn't oblige.Glides past sweet as.
    I thought that the CD/DVD lens cleaner that I had used for the first time had done a mischief to the installed optical drive's lens. :>

    I'm beginning to think that the issue could be an intermittent fault with the on-board sound, speaker wiring/connections, a fault with the new amplified speakers I'm using, or the indexing services of MS Office 2007 I'd installed prior to the glitch's arrival,Google Desktop's Indexing service, or the Nero Backup Key scan. Nero running has never caused a problem before so I don't know why it should now.
    I disabled all the indexers and backup scanning services listed above. I also disabled them because it turned out that they were the culprit behind the recent arrival of messages saying " cannot access the file because it is being used by another service". No good when I'm D-loading.
    Anyway, there is the long and the longest of it all.
    I've never before had a problem with writing to optical media while multi-tasking--and that leads me to think I'd better check the "drop-out"issue and see if it is happening on the media that I burned too.

    I will now play an album fom HDD, note at what place the sound cuts out and then create a disc of same album. If there are no missing parts it must be complete.
    And go look elsewhere for the cure.

    Thanks.

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  7. Mez

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    Unfortunaly, I had something like that happen to me I was moving about that much from on drive to another and there was an interuption. Maybe I ran out of space because there was too much in the recycle in. So there was a lag in the move process. Half that stuff was ruined. I am sure it was the before or after the stop hhat deliniates the good from the bad. However, by the time I realized there was a problem I couldn't remember exactly what happened. What ever processes touch the ruined files die.

    I would try to get another copy of the tunes of what does not play on your HD. I would just get a sample first. The source might be croupt. If a tune plays poorly off the HD, putting in on a CD will not help.
    You might want to single task as much as possible. I do remember someone that complained that IM interfeared with the music process. Her computer was liteweight.

    I have a 5+ gHz dual core with 4g RAM and almost 3 TB of disk. space.
     
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    Mez.
    hi ya. I will get another copy of the track that drops out, from the same source and check for same dropout and possible corruption in the source file.
    I have noticed that sometimes a "Device0 Partition 1" message is showing on screen when I try to create a disc. Device 0 partition1 is the Active C drive on Master HDD, the message says that it has a 'Bad Block'. I have used two software applications to check both HDD's for bad blocks and none are showing up.I tried to open an .iso DVD disc that I had created and it still refuses to open,even though when I created the DVD .iso using Ashampoo Burning Studio 8 set to 'Verify Data on disc':all was ok.
    Trying to open the .iso actually causes my computer to lock-up. Today it BSOD'd after I had removed the disc from the optic drive, well...after I had tried connecting to the Internet after removing the DVD from the drive. Fixed that problem opening in 'Safe Mode' and setting com to chkdsk c:/f/r. Lot of Index Errors were deleted.
    Remember I mentioned that I had the 'Bad Block' messages before but they were actually pointing towards the Optic Drive, or Media I was using, after having checked both Drive and Media and finding Media passed the test, I decided to use Device manager to uninstall the Optic drive and then allowed it to be found / installed again with the result that I have not seen the 'Bad Block' message again,,yet. That move still did not open the DVD with the 'Verified data' on it. Good reason for that could well be that it requires .xmiso to play it. Have to 'Munch' that Odyssey's Oddworld :D
    I have acquired quite a few GB's of music files of late and will run a few of them, and the file containing the supposed drop-out of sound, to see if the problem is still in there. Hope not, because as I said, I had obtained quite a glut of files during the build up to the crashes and BSODs that left me with no choice but to reformat / fresh install OS and all programs onto the computer.
    I could do with a TB or more of space on my computer, I'll probably end up with Tera's full of Terror.
    Cheers ;D
     
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    I it possible your HD is dying. I would act quickly to try to recover what you have on the disk. Do you have your acceses key for your OS? That is worth while to recover. Whith that you can reinstall your OS with a borrowed disk. Anything yo more might be suspect. I would talk to the make your own PC guys. Maybe check disk could fix your drive. Sometimes it kills the disk as well. I don't remember the ins and outs. When disks die, sometimes you can get the data off. This is very serious.
     

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