Ds Get Fash!

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  1. Marmiton

    Marmiton Member

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    Hello!
    First I just want to creat a topic to help people to choose the GOOD configuration to hack there NDS, I mean DS and DS lite. And to inform people of the different thing possible.

    From my free tour on the differents topic I deduce it:

    The best configuration for a normal DS is a M3 Flash Card and a Pascard.

    But why not a super card and a super pass? What will I lost for an inferior cost?
    And is it true that CF card are faster than SD or Micro SD?

    I also read tha multi player don't work, is it true?
    And what about online game?
    It's said it's work but step by step nitendo forbid backup game.
    And gba rom's reliablelity?

    I will post other question after.
     
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    mr_hanky Regular member

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    Yes it is. It is also the best for the DS Lite - it just sticks out more though.

    Supercard: Basically anything GBA related on the supercard is unreliable, there are more DS games that won't work on the supercard that do on others such as the M3, it is of poor build quality compared to most other flash carts, it uses cheap compoents which can fail easily whereas other flash carts use better (though more expensive) components.

    Superpass: Only good for the Supercard, you should always get the Pass device made by the same company, as they are rivals they can block out each others pass devices from working (though this hasn't be done yet) Also some flash carts need updating to work with rivals pass devices.

    When it comes to flash adapters, yes. Normally SD is faster, but due to the lack of knowledge of the I/O methods of the flash carts that use SD it is much quicker to use CF as this uses a standard IDE interface.

    Multiplayer works in the following:
    Multicart Play (both player have the game (wither real or rom, or 1 of each)

    Single cart play:
    the person who [bold]recives[/bold] the game via dowbnload play has FlashMe insatlled. It does not mater about wether the sending DS has FlashMe.
    The receving DS needs FlashMe to load the downloaded game as the ROM it was sent from does not have the RSA signiture that download play looks for before loading the game. There is a very small amount of games that this des not effect, but more often than not it won't work unless the receiving DS is flashed.

    Online play works exactly as if you were using the original game, nintendo has no way of telling if you are using a backup or a customised firmware over they're WFC service - they can however block you for using cheats online (such as the Metroid Prime Hunters trainer)

    On the M3, perfect.
     
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  3. Marmiton

    Marmiton Member

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    Thanks for answer.
    I heard some ds need Hardware modification or a electronic one to be flash. Is it true ?

    And what is "flashme" ?
     
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    Sleep mode works just fine with FlashMe.

    I use it all the time.
     
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    really? hm.. i thought you had to have some kind of dummy cart to be able to go into sleep mode.. at least thats what I remember reading somewhere like on m3-forum or something. Oh well, disregard that part of my comment then :p
     
  7. mr_hanky

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    To use sleep mode with FlashMe you need to have an original game in the DS slot.

    Obviously, everyone who is needing to use sleep mode will have one game, as your playing legally backed up ROMs right ;-)
     
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  8. Darkhadou

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    I'll ask here instead of starting a new thread-
    If I were to get the whole kit, Passcard, M3 and a mini SD card.
    Approximately how many games will I be able to store? Will it depend on the actual file size of the backup/ roms OR will it be done sameway as the GBAs Flashcart which has a limit regarding the actual graphics (256Mbits)- I really hated that.
     
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    mr_hanky Regular member

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    You can store as many games as can fit on your SD card. The M3 has a clever way of being able to run the game directly off the SD card so no RAM limit of the device to worry about (though it can copy and play games from the SD to the RAM if they are under 32MB)
     
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    That's superb, thanx *goes and orders*
     
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    XD I didn't know that. I've just been leaving games in there because Rein doesn't work with my EZIV.
     
  12. mr_hanky

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    I keep Mario Kart in my DS as it's my favourite game, but also to cover the slot, don't want dust or anything getting in that slot - I didn't realise that it required a game in there for sleep mode to work until someone mentioned it on another forum, and I tested it to find that it didn't work without a game.
     
  13. Marmiton

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    So if I buy a M3 with CF or SD, and a friend borrowme a passcard just fr install flashme on my ds I will run homebrew and NDS ROMs?

    Is it possible to return to the original firmwire?

    What is this "sleep mode"?
     
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    Hi all
    I just bought a ds lite and I was wondering if anyone out there has tried the
    EFA-Linker II (1G) Flash Set. Is it any good? do you still recommend the M3
    over it?
    I have a friend that can flash my ds lite for me. Afetr flashing my ds will I be
    able to use any type of flash card to run ds roms?
    thanks for your help
    P.
     
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    mr_hanky Regular member

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    Yes, the Passcard is only to get the M3 to run in DS mode, once FlashMe is installed, it will do the job of the Passcard (plus adds better security to the firmware)

    On an old DS, yes. But I do not think it is possible with a DS Lite (unless you istall a normal DS firmware)
    However youi can install FlashMe Stealth, which is just like normal FlashMe but does not remove the Health and Safety screen (shops won't know the difference)

    Sleep mode is when you shut the DS while playing a game, the system basically turns everything off (screens, speakers, microphone etc) but keeps the game in RAM, so when you open it again you can continue from where you were.

    @pospam
    If you don't have an EFA Linker I wouldn't recomend buying one, it is very troublesome getting NDS games to work on it, and there is currently no official way to do it. If you want a proper Flash Cart (that dosn't use removeable media) get a G6 Flash, these have the highest compatibilty of all Flash carts.

    If you do have an EFA Linker, heres how to get NDS roms working:
    How to run NDS ROMS from EFA II cards. (the unofficial way)

    1. Rom has to be in patched with NDS Patcher - in *.nds.gba form
    2. Copy the gamename.nds.gba file to the EFAII
    3. Put the card into DS and run in GBA mode
    4. Copy the NDS rom from Storage to Current ROMS (EFA NAND to NOR)
    5. Now RUN the game in GBA mode -> You will get a white screen
    6. Plug mini-USB cable into the card (has to be connected to PC)
    7. Turn the DS OFF
    8. Turn it back on with SuperPass / PassKey in the DS slot
    9. If all done correctly -- DS game will load.
     
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    Thanks Mr_hanky:

    I have been checking out the G6-Flash LITE 4G and I think it is a good option.
    I wanted to know if you guys think the M3 is still a better choice than the G6,
    and if so why?
    Does the M3 have abetter rom and homebrew support than the M3 flash card?
    Thanks for your help
    P.
     
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    G6 is made by the same team as the M3.. so overall compatibility will be the same for commercial ROMs

    Homebrew is another story though. I've heard a lot of homebrew doesn't work with the G6 Lite -- may want to read up about that a little bit.

    The only reason the M3 would be a better option (other than homebrew support) is the fact that is has expandable memory, up to however much you can afford. With the G6 Lite, its a fixed 512 megabyte (4 Gigabit)
     
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    mr_hanky Regular member

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    Homebrew on the G6 works fine, they only things that don't work are things that require additional files on the card to be read, such as Moonshell (though it does have it's own version) and DSorganise, this is due to the lack of knowledge regarding the I/O system of the G6.

    The compatibilty of games on the M3 and G6 is the same, though if a new game was to come out that didn't work on either, it is the G6 that gets priortiy to be working first.

    And as pakixd said, it's memory is fixed at 512MB, where as the M3 is whatever you can afford.

     

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