Dual disk/SACD

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  1. poetprose

    poetprose Member

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    New to this format of music

    what is the difference between a dual disk and an SACD? or are they they the same type

    I have a DVDA player so this is why I am trying to learn about all the formats
     
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    most SACDs are dual disk. Meaning, it has two layers. A standard CD layer so it can be played in any regular audio CD player, and underneath that is the Super Audio CD layer which can then be read by the SACD players. DVD-Audio and SACD are two different formats though, so your DVD-A player won't play SACDs unless it was designed to. On a sidenote, SACDs sound SO much better in my opinion. I've heard DVD-A several times and have just not been impressed. SACD however is amazing. It sounds so close to an analog 2" studio tape machine its scary. I shelled out $3500 for my SACD player a few years ago (the first one Sony ever made) and have been satisfied with it ever since.
     
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    So dual disk is just another name for SACD

    yes my pioneer 578a plays both dvda and sacds, thx for the info
     
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    not all SACDs are dual disks, but most are. but give both DVD-A and SACD a try, see what you think.
     
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    okay I just researched online, and there is ANOTHER form of dual disc. For DVD Video and CD Audio, there is a type of disc that has DVD material on one side, and you flip it over and there is CD Audio content on the other side. This is propbably the new format you have heard about.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dual_disc

    When SACD was developed a few years ago they were calleg dual disk as well, but apparently this new dvd/cd disc is what they are calling dual disk now
     
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    So how long will it be till regular cd's are obsolete. And can you buy blank SACD's in the shops.
     
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    no you can't buy blank SACDs, there is currently no way to burn them, as they are a different format than CDs and DVDs
     
  8. diabolos

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    Sony will never let people burn SACDs (as long as there profitable). Thats the main reason for the new formats (SACD and DVD-Audio) there un-cracked.

    It seems as if the older stuff (on SACD) have only an SACD layer while the newer stuff come in hybrid layer formats. What really bugs me is that all DVD audio discs are DVD-Audio/Video discs. They boast support on all DVD players but in truth only DVD players with a DVD-Audio/Video icon (not a DVD-Video icon) can actually decode the multi-channel AOB files (found in the Audio_TS directory).

    I think that having one presentation encoded in AC3 or DTS and another in MLP will confuse consumers. People with DVD-Video (only) players will think that they are listing to DVD audio quality music because it is in sourround sound but they arn't. Only the audio nuts (us) and manufactures will know the real difference.

    _...

    Also which format (Dual-Disc, SACD, DVD-Audio) do do you think is the best and why (everyone)?

    DualDisc just sounds dumb to me and conforms to neither the red or scarlet book standards, nor does is it backed by the DVD forum!

    http://www.us.onkyo.com/faqs_detail.cfm?detail=1&id=140

    SACD has more of the titles that I listen to (mostly Island of Def Jam and Columbia (Sony)) while DVD-A has more hardware support (in my eyes). The main dif between DD and Hybrid-SACDs is that Hybrid-SACDs don't have to be flipped. DDs contain a CD side and a DVD side (You do realize that an SACD is just a DVD with DSD (Direct Stream Digital) files on it right!).

    Ced
     
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