Dual layer burning.

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  1. prodigy42

    prodigy42 Regular member

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    I ahve a couple of questions about dual layer dvds. I have a dvd burner that supports dual layer. Can I put two different movies on the dual layered discs. Is there any programs out there that support dual layer burning. Do they sell dual layered dvd's yet.

    Thanks for your input
    prodigy420
     
  2. Car.Mike

    Car.Mike Active member

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    prodigy42,
    Welcome to the forum. Programs that do D/L disks are DVDDecrypter( mode>iso read> mode>Iso write. Nero does them using Recode and so does DVDShrink. They are more programs but I mainly do mine using DVDDecrypter as I think it guages the layer break better. I have never tried to compress 1 movie and add it to the first layer and then take next movie and compress it and put it on the 2nd layer. In theory it should work but I think you will have problems doing it as you will need to guage the layer break properly. You should be able to purchase D/L DVD's through Meritline, Rima , or Newegg. Just purchase the Verbatims DVD's.
     
  3. prodigy42

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    The dual layer works together or does it wait for a signal from the first layer to start the second layer. And when you mean gauge the layer break. can u please go a little deeper with gauging the layer break. What do u mean.
     
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    prodigy42,
    A + d/l disk is approx 8.5 gb. One layers size is 4.25 and the other layer is 4.25. The layer break is a signal ( w/in the DVD files) that tells the DVD Player to go to the other layer and read the info there. Since the disks are expensive if you goof , you can open Nero and if I am not mistaken you can tell Nero where the break is. If you are doing it manually then you have to tell the program you are using approx where the break is.

    Go here as there is more info here and it describes the layer break using + D/L media :

    http://www.mediachance.com/dvdlab/Helppro/layerbreak.htm
     
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    squizzle Active member

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    Here's my theory on getting two movies on one DL disc. Use Shrink to compress both discs (movie only), then use reauthor mode to put both titles on the disc.
     
  6. Anthony7

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    i have a very silly question
    is dual layer DVD the same as double layered DVD?
    or are they different? if so.how?
     
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    yes they are the same.
     
  8. Anthony7

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    cos some dvd burners state that they can burn dual layered dvds while others state they can burn double layered dvds
    why do they have different names for the same thing?
    but thanks for replying
     
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    that's like catsup and ketchup. Both the same thing, spelled differently. Why? Who knows?
     
  10. papabois

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    Given the current price of a DL disc. It would be more cost effective to use two separate single layer discs for two movies, rather than compress them and put it onto 1 DL disc.
     
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    Note. If you plan to use dual layer DVDR's for you own use, you may not have a problem playing them back. On the other hand, if you plan to burn DL DVD's and give them to family and friends be aware that there still is some incompatibility issues out there regarding DVD player support for DL. Of the DL disks I have burned and tried on different DVD players some have given me grief. Just a note of caution.
     
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    I guess compatibility is about 2/3 on standalone players. Pretty big chance to be taking for the $$ if you ask me.
     
  13. prodigy42

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    IS their a program out there reconizes the two different layer breaks on d/l. and then from that point I would decide what movie I want to be on what ever layer i choose. Has any one tried to do this. I am only doing this becuase I have one movie and then a sequal, and it would be really neat to have both of them on the same disc.


    On a different note how does the manufacture get the d/l discs to work on every single dvd player or do the d/l discs (remember I am talking about the orginal movie) only supported by only the newer dvd players?
     
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    commercial DL DVDs are pressed copies, not burned, and are DVD-VIDEO (or DVD-ROM, same thing) format. These are what your DVD player was designed to play. DL DVDRs are a completely different format of disc, but the +Rs can be booktyped as DVD-ROM (depending on your burner) which increases their compatibility, don't know how much on DVDR media though. I personally have no experience with DL DVDR, so I can't get into much better detail about this without possibly leading you down the wrong track.

    As far as the layer break, I think if you use a reauthoring program and create a menu you shouldn't really have a problem there. Not positive on this one though.
     
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    flip218 Moderator Staff Member

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    howndawg,

    Your sig has been removed from your post. Read the forum rules. No advertising.

    Do not post again with it in your sig. You will be banned if it is in your sig again.
     
  16. dingboy

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    I have a Sony DW-Q28A which I was sure recognized DL DVDs in the past. What I mean by recognized was that I could put in a blank one and in "my computer" it'd show the size as ~8Gb. FF to today when I finally try DVDSrink to burn something to a DL and now not only will DVDShrink and Nero not recognize the disk but neither will "my computer". This burner is supposed to be DL and I know it recognized them before. In this thread it's stated that DVDShrink and Nero both with with DL, what am I doing wrong? The burner can't be broken already, can it? I've only had it about a month. It works fine with single layer DVDs.

    Any input appreciated.
     
  17. zz_tap

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    I am trying to something similar, but i am just trying to burn to a regular dual layor dvd+R and keeps coming up error. Even after i fix the preferences to custom disc 8928 MB
     
  18. squizzle

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    @zz:
    From what I've been reading DL DVDR holds 8500MB, so 8900 might be a bit too much.

    Can you tell us a little more about your error? What program are you using? What exactly does the error say?
     
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    trying to use dvd shrink, only allows me to use dvd5 and custom instead of the choice for dvd 9. Try to plug in what a dual layor would be 8928mb and that might be the problem not really sure. Another option i am going to try is changing the mode in decrypter and try a different movie that requires a dual layor. Of course i have only been messing with it for the last 3 days not sure what the problem is. Asked few people and they are not sure either.Tried to use 8900mb for burning still came up error and locked computer up.
    any idea.?
     
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    Alright update on attempts.
    tried to lower things down to 800MB still doesn't work. curiosity if it matters on the type of disk.
    Have been using regular sony DVD+R 4.7 GB with sony dual layor burner. Attempting Ridata DVD+R 8.5MB DL 2.4X). Not really sure if any of it matters but figured might as well ask a few questions and get some other gears turning for assistances. Also went and removed DVD Shrink and reinstalled it. Still didn't change any of the previous problems doesn't give me any other options other than dvd5 or custom. Don't mean to knock anyone's ego or smartness but dang some of Best buy computer techs don't know jack.
     

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