Dual Layer DVDs

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  1. jhtomes

    jhtomes Member

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    Does anyone know if there will be DVD-R DL? All of the dual layered disks I seem to find are DVD+R, never found DVD-R?
     
  2. jhtomes

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    Nevermind, I found some by looking at some of the links on this site. Everything I have seen locally have been DVD+R DL.
     
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    Yep they make them but they can't be booktyped just like dvd-R so their compatibility is compromised also from what I have read here more coasters are incurred. Stay with the + and life will be easier.
     
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    thread teleported to relevant forum :)
     
  5. riley577

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    Dont know why you want to use duel layer discs , they are overpriced and you can get as good a picture on a single layer disc , if you cut the crap out.
     
  6. gjrhine

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    Some crap is not crap.
     
  7. riley577

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    Well if you like watching adverts and having subtitles and directors comment go for the dual lair , it will save all. Me i just want to watch the film without the crap and save money by getting it on a single layer disc without compromising quality.
     
  8. gjrhine

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    Like King Kong?
     
  9. riley577

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    I dont like having to watch endless adverts for other films before i watch the main movie. Neither do i watch the Directors cut and commentary, you can get what you want on a single disc cutting this out. I think you are throwing your money away buying duel layer , but thats my opinion on this.
     
  10. gjrhine

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    You can not get just the movie King Kong and other movies longer than about 2 hours on one disc without compromising the picture quality by using compression.
     
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    If you are backing up Tv box sets (like the Simpsons) you either have to compress the crapola outta it or ... use a DL disc ... With the Simpsons sets ... compression gives you a low quality picture on any Tv larger than small ...
     
  12. mrchub

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    gjrhine, you're completely right. Anyone who thinks that any film can be copied as movie-only to a single-layer disc has either a very crappy TV or poor eyesight. I can't imagine copying King Kong, LOTR, etc., onto a single-layer disc. Previously I'd just copy the movie to two discs. Now I just wait for a sale on Verb DLs and off we go.
     
  13. gjrhine

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    Neweggs got them for about $2.50 shipped in 10 packs right now.

    One time viewing stuff I'll compress. Keepers go to DL.
     
  14. riley577

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    I disagree, Ive backed up loads of films onto one disc and even the ones that need compressing still look as good as the original film. Perhaps you need to sort out your viewing equipment.I use an Lg 4163b burner with Taiyo Yuden 8x DVD-r media. My TV is a 36" Panny widescreen connected by component leads from the Dvd, perhaps my eyesight is failing due to a misspent youth but the picture i see is always brill
     
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    I think that it all depends on what you expect out of a backup copy ... I want it to be an exact clone of the original and ... regardless of what you use for viewing ... you cannot get an exact copy using a single layer disc ... I use a BenQ DW1640, DW1655, a LiteOn, a Plextor and four others ... it doesn't matter ... and for viewing ... a HD Sony widescreen ...

    and, despite my advanced age ... since my cataract surgery I have perfect vision ... 20/20 in both eyes
     
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    riley577, you should pass along your comments to the studios. If they knew that they could get the same video quality using only 4.37GB for entire films they could save themselves a lot of money by not using higher bitrates (and thus double layer discs)!
     
  17. gjrhine

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    I did the 3 hours and 15 minutes of King Kong on both single and double layer for comparison. riley577 describes the picture he sees as always brill (sic) and perhaps it is but a more revealing A/V setup will always show the difference. I would describe the picture from the single layer as being "softer". Not bad at all but a nice Chevy is still not a Cadillac.
     
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    Sometimes too, if the compression isn't that great, the difference in single and dual layer is not noticeable; especially using TY or Verbatim. The quality of media will make a difference. There have been times where I will just get the movie itself - no titles or menus. With a compression rate of about 80%, I couldn't tell the difference in the original. Now the original was not eye-popping at all. It was pretty good, not digitally remastered or anything, but again, pretty good.

    Anyway, FWIW, BB has a sale on DVD+R DL (Verbs) - 20 pack for $39.99, and Office Max has the 10 pack for $19.99.
     
  19. gjrhine

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    Someone explain why the quality of the media will make a difference in picture quality. The bits are either there or they are not. It seems to me that better quality media only means no pixelation, blocking, stops, etc. In the unlikely event that you should get a good burn on, say, a Memorex the picture should look the same as a good burn on a TY.
     
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