dvd backup? illegall?

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  1. agenthank

    agenthank Member

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    hi,
    i just wandered which is the correct answer?
    i am getting different answers from websites,
    is it illegall to make one backup copy of a dvd movie that i have purchased for my sole use?
    i know it is illegall if i make copies and then sell them.
    thanks, agenthank!
     
  2. gurnard

    gurnard Regular member

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    larrylje Active member

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    This has been asked multipul times do some searching.
     
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  4. agenthank

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    hi,
    i am puzzled which is right? hmmm
    quote-hi :)
    i do believe that even in the states, or anywhere that has copy right laws. that you are breaking that law if you copy a protected disc, to copy said disc you have to break the protection on that disc therefore making it an illegal copy.
    you may own the disc, but not the content
    so therefore your not allowed to make even 1 copy.

    quote-No. It is perfectly legally to back-up your own video collection for your own personnel use. The only way to do that is by breaking the protection on the original disc. The protections on the DVDs are to protect the manufacture and such from people copying a movie then selling copies to the public for personnel financial gain.

    by the way i live in the uk.
    which is it? yes or no!
     
  5. gurnard

    gurnard Regular member

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    agenthank hi :)
    as you saw in the link i got into a real flame war over my statement, thats why i gave you the link to read.
    yes it's very confusing (i also live in the uk)
    but i'll stick to my original statement, yes it is illegal to make a copy of anything with copywrite protection. i also believe that it is illegal to own programmes that will do just that ie. decrypter..shrink anydvd. dont take this as gospel i'm no lawyer. it's only my own take on the law.
     
  6. agenthank

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    hi, ok ill take that answer, i think its the best way!
    thankyou, agenthank!
     
  7. Noqoilpi

    Noqoilpi Regular member

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    Treatise on DVD Backup - You do not own the movie, but you have the right to make one backup of the DVD!

    Excerpts from
    Copyright Law of the United States of America and Related Laws Contained in Title 17 of the United States Code


    [bold]Fair Use[/bold]

    http://www.copyright.gov/fls/fl102.html


    Daniel J. Peng Office of the General Counsel Copyright Office

    http://www.copyright.gov/1201/comments/038.pdf

    http://www.copyright.gov/docs/mgm/cea-ccia-hrrc.pdf

    IN THE Supreme Court of the United States

    METRO-GOLDWYN-MAYER STUDIOS v. GROKSTER, LTD.

     
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  8. agenthank

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    hmmm, so i do have a right to make 1 backup copy then?
     
  9. Noqoilpi

    Noqoilpi Regular member

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    Good question?
    The Supreme Court and Daniel J. Peng, Office of the General Counsel Copyright Office think you do.

    It’s the same problem as software [say XP as an example]. You buy the right to use XP forever on one PC.

    The dilemma is how to limit you to just one. An impossible task.

    So companies try to make it difficult as possible. The difference is that Microsoft will [eventually] give you the one.
    It is not cost effective to do due the same with CDs and DVDs.

    Edit
    So much for splee [spell] check catching my typos!
     
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  10. larrylje

    larrylje Active member

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    It just depends how you inturpet the law.

    In anycase I am sure the MPAA isnt out looking for people that have made backups of DVD's they own.

    This is manly to try to stop people from making backups and making finacel gain on them by selling them.

    They want to make the punishment of doing this as strict as possible to try to stop this from going on. So if your not seling them and only making backups to protect your investment that you own then i wouldnt worry about it.
     

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