I finely found an app that works for me called SMART DVD. It works well. Insert dvd, check SETTINGS, check what you need especially "remove protection", create the save folder, and START. When done the file can be found where you saved it and use both VLC and POTPLAYER to record it according to the apps proceedures. One app at a time. I have not yet found an "on the fly" alternative. At least not a FREE one. DVD43 does not work under win 7. Still looking.