DVD -R DL Disks and Sony DW-D22A

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  1. Boomerang

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    I have the Sony DW-D22A drive and I have been burning DVD -R DL disks for quite some time with it.

    I just got a new batch of Ridata DVD -R DL disks in and I cannot burn to the disks.

    I have upgraded the firmware to BYS3 and still no luck.

    1) Anyone have any ideas what is going on.
    2) Also, anticipating that it's time to get a new drive I've started searching for a new one and so far it appears that the DL drives only support DVD +R DL. What's up with this?
    3) Recommendation on a new driver that will support writing to DVD -R DL disks?

    Thanks for the support.
     
  2. Dunker

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    The problem is that your burner does not support DVD-R DL writing.

    http://www.videohelp.com/dvdwriters...om=&bdrom=&orderby=Name&hits=25&Search=Search

    NEC ND-3550A, Pioneer 111D/L, Benq 1650/1655, Lite-On Lite-On SHM-165P6S - all are modern drives that handle -R DL as well as +R DL.

    The Pioneer and Benq is generally considered the best, the latter being able to bitset. I have the NEC, and it is phenomenal, with my only complaint that it won't bitset DVD+R single layer (it will bitset +R DL to DVD-ROM though.) The NEC can use a hacked firmware from Liggy's and Dee's to bitset all around and is available for $19.99 at tigerdirect after rebate until the end of the month.

    BTW, Ridata is considered crap media generally, though I don't know about their -R DL offerings. I hope they work out well for you.
     
  3. Boomerang

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    OK, I will go with that. I swear the disks I have been using are -R DL, but I guess not.

    The disks I have written in the past are blank, no indication of their type, i.e. - or + R.

    Is there a way / software that I can use to determine the type of media I have been using in the past?

    Thanks for the reply, education and recommendation on a new drive.

     
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    Man, I gotta stop smoking the wacky weed.

    Yep, +R disks are what I have been burning in the past.

    It's time to upgrade.

    Thanks for your time and paitence...
     
  6. Boomerang

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    One finaly question for the night.

    If I have a DVD Player that plays DVD -R +R and DVD +R DL do you think I will have any trouble playing DVD -R DL in it?

     
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    Hi there,

    If those DVD-R DL are used to burn video, the next question is:

    Will your DVD Player support them ?

    I assume the new ones maybe, but I would not be surprise if some older ones won't play them at all !

    Anyone with experience with DVD-R DL Media Playback feedback ?
     
  8. Dunker

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    Well, take this with a grain of salt because I have never used a DVD-R DL or even touched one in person, but I understand there are some problems. Namely, they handle the layer break a bit differently than +R DLs and it's not quite as straightforward. I suspect this will cause compatibility problems. I suspect some manufacturers have not even tested DVD-R DL due to it's rarity. So I think compatibility will be more iffy than it is with +R DL.

    Again, I am only repeating things I have heard, so I could be way off and giving the format an undeserved bad rap. But I personally believe that if you want to "play it safe" right now, stick with +R DL until and if the -R DL format has had a chance to get better established.
     
  9. Boomerang

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    Well, I upgraded my DVD Burner to the Pioneer DVR-111D and I'm back in business with burning DVD -R DL.

    They also work on my DVD player. It takes a bit of doing and support from all of you, but it's worth it in the end.

    Lesson learned about DVD -R DL versus DVD +R DL. The -R is definitely not in the norm.

     
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    Hey, good luck. I just though I'd mention something I just found out, that I Imgburn 2.0 apparently handles the DVD-R DL "layer jump" (they don't call it a layer break for some reason). Supposedly, so does Clonedvd2. I don't know of any other software that really deals with it. Also, according to Videohelp's site, the Pioneer doesn't bitset/booktype DVD+R, so you may be stuck using DVD-R if you need compatibility with older or weird players or you may need to get a hacked firmware from rpc1.org in order to bitset. The Pioneer is a great burner nonetheless. Enjoy.
     

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