Hey! I just want to verify something that I was missing reading through all of these threads. I just went back to the original dvdshrink page (http://www.afterdawn.com/software/video_software/dvd_rippers/dvd_shrink.cfm)and had missed the first line: DVD Shrink is a versatile freeware tool for fitting a DVD-Video disc on a single DVD-R. Right here it states that only -r media can be used. I have seen conflicting info in regards to -r vs +r. In some thread I read something to the extent of most of the users use -r and someone replying that +r is ok but what is most important is the brand. I have followed all of the instructions Scuba Pete has put together and made a backup that my computer could read on a +rw - which would negate my question but I cannot backup successfully on Verbatim DataLife DVD+R. I have backed disks with xcopy express but when I ran into trouble I went looking for a better solution. So my question is, "Can only -r disks be used with dvdshrink?" The forum is called DVD-R. Thanks.