OK, I've searched endlessly thru the various forum posts, seen lots of "Nero 6 sucks" comments and more than a few "DVD Shrink makes coasters" comments, but still don't have a solution to my problem. I'm trying to back up my own copy of Holes so my kids won't destroy it. I've used DVD Shrink to shrink the DVD down to around 4.3gigs, per the many guides I've found here and elsewhere. Burn it via Nero 6 DVD-Video feature, put everything made from DVD Shrink into the VIDEO_TS folder. I'm using TDK DVD-RW these days (to keep from making more coasters), although I've also used TDK and Memorex DVD-R's as well. Burn goes fine. What I get is a compressed DVD that plays fine in my computer (Sony Vaio P4 system), fine in my laptop (Thinkpad T30), with both systems seeing it as a DVD and launching WinDVD to play. -BUT- these same DVD-RW's WON'T play in my supposedly compatible stand-alone players. I have two set-top players: A Pioneer DVD-C503D and a Samsung DVD-V1000. Both of these players are listed on DVDRHELP.COM forums as being capable of playing DVD-R and DVD-RW...in fact, the Pioneer model is listed as one of the 'more compatible' DVD players out there. No such luck for me.....coaster heaven. Each player will see the DVD copy, briefly show me that it's trying to load the menu (on the front display, anyway), and then either give an error or just stop. Pressing play, FF/RW, Menu button...nothing happens. The Samsung says it's an invalid disc...Pioneer just wont' play it. I've experimented with a number of settings: DVD Shrink: Used the re-author tool to create a VIDEO_TS folder with JUST the movie, no extras, and burned via Nero....same results...plays on my PC's, but won't play on either set-top box. Nero 6: Tried the UDF/ISO settings as listed here and elsewhere to burn the DVD Shrink generated files. Still no luck. I also have an XBOX DVD player...and it won't work either. What on earth am I doing wrong? Media? BOTH Memorex and TDK are bad? I find that hard to believe! Help?