DVD Shrink And Nero Keeps Failing Burn Process

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  1. kbroulet

    kbroulet Member

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    I'm going to try a few things when I get home.

    1. Disconnecting my CD Drive.
    2. DMA? What is DMA?
    3. Firmware? Could it be a firmware issue and if so, what can I do?

    Any help is great. Please refer to my earlier post for issue.

    Kevin
     
  2. kbroulet

    kbroulet Member

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    Got it. Disconnected CD drive; it was on the same IDE bus. Played with the jumper, but the burning works.

    Kevin
     
  3. Analyzer5

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    ScubaPete,
    The question is . . . When both drives are hooked up, does the CD drive work ? [bold]yes[/bold]

    With both drives hooked up, will the DVD drive do CD's ? [bold]yes[/bold]

    Lastly, Have you tried to run 2 IDE cables having the burners jumped to master on both drives - your HD's would be secondary on the IDE cables. [bold]no[/bold]

    Most important - I just re-read the entire thread -

    Please check your IDE cable to make sure it's an 80 wire cable and not a 40-wire cable -
    (Sorry I didn't check that before.) [bold]It is a 40 Wire Cable[/bold]

    [bold]What Difference does the 80 wire cable make over the 40 wire?[/bold]
     
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  4. creaky

    creaky Moderator Staff Member

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    @kbroulet - nice one..

    @analyser5 - couple snippets from http://www.pcguide.com/ref/hdd/if/ide/confCable80-c.html -

    the new cable has 80 conductors (wires)--it does not have 80 pins on each connector, though, just 40. This means that the new cable is pin-compatible with the old drive. No change has been made to the IDE/ATA connectors, aside from the color-coding.

    The extra 40 wires don't carry new information, they are just used to separate the "real" 40 signal wires, to reduce interference and other signaling problems associated with higher-speed transfers
     
  5. ScubaPete

    ScubaPete Senior member

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    Perhaps I worded the drive positions incorrectly.

    What I had meant was on IDE cable # 1. Put your DVD burner as the master and your DC burner as the slave. On IDE cable # 2. Put your Primary HD as master and secondary HD as slave.

    BOTH IDE CABLES ARE TO BE 80-wire !

    To give you the short answer on the cable, Faster Data transfer, less interference.

    Nice link Creaky -



    @kbroulet,

    You should be using Nero Burning ROM not express to burn -

    I apologize that it's written in German - I was feeling a little German today (and then she slapped my face . . .)

    [/b]HINT:
    First, create a folder for your work on your desktop OR somewhere on your HD where you can find it again. - Name it something that you'll be able to find. I named mine C:\All My DVD Work\Sleeping Beauty Kills Bill, needs Anger Management. Now load your IFO, BUP and VOB files there - make sure they are in a folder named VIDEO_TS written like that (all in Caps) - some programs like DVD Shrink will make the properly named folder for you, others you must make the folder yourself - Nero needs that folder with all it's contents in order to work properly -

    Burning a file made by DVD Shrink.
    If you had used DVD Shrink to create a file on your HD you are truly in great shape. When you wish to burn, use the "File Browser" in Nero Classic (don't use Nero's Wizard), trace your path back to C:\All My DVD Work\Sleeping Beauty Kills Bill, needs Anger Management. , you don't have to remember where your work is or if you need to do anymore work on it, it is completely finished, ready to go - -

    OK zen, is everyone comfy ? Goot - its now time for - -
    "Uncle" ScubaPete's German, goose Step by goose Step, Let's burn with Nero 6 Guide -

    First - Do not use Nero Wizard -
    Please follow EXACTLY -
    Vhen you open Nero Burning ROM, you vill be at zee "New Compilation" window. Directly under the title "New Compilation" is a choice block to choose either zee DVD or zee CD, choose zee "DVD". Directly under that click on zee "DVD Video Icon." Then click "New" in the upper right corner of that screen, NOT zee main screen.
    You now are in zee "DVD Video" window. In zee left screen, click "VIDEO_TS". In zee "File Browser" screen, 3rd from zee left, trace your path to zee VIDEO_TS folder, zee one you made earlier holding all of your files and click on that folder. All of your VIDEO_TS files are now opened in zee right screen. Click on zee top file, hold down zee "Shift" key and then click zee bottom file thereby hi-lighting zee entire column of files. Click and (holding zee left mouse button down) drag zee entire column of files to zee open screen, second from zee left and release zee mouse button. Now click zee icon on zee task bar that shows a match on a disc, and then click "OK" and now, clear zee room, stand up tall and shout out, "Burn Baby, BURN" ! One more time, let me hear you say it, "Who's your Daddy Now ???"
    Guess what my Friend ? You are done !!!

    (Wheeew, now I really need a cigarette)

    NOW, STAND AWAY FROM ZEE COMPUTER ! !
    Keep all fingers and toes away from zee Computer. Do not fold spindle or mutilate and never mess vid zee electron box vhen it's working - it could be hazardous to your health, Commander Jason is watching -
    Go and have your coffee, vhen Nero is done, zee electronic wonder box vill let you know ;-))

    Enjoy your backup,

    Cheers,
     
  6. Analyzer5

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    Scubapete,

    [bold]This is how everything is set up right now, I just don't have the 80 wire IDE cables I will try that sometime this weekend....[/bold]

    1.DVD burner as the master and CD burner as the slave.
    2.Primary HD as master and secondary HD as slave.




     
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  7. ScubaPete

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    Looks good -

    Now let's get that cable and take this "Puppy" out for a test run . . . .
     
  8. Analyzer5

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    ScubaPete,

    Just wanted to let you know I'm now using the 80 wire cord with both the cd and dvd burner hooked up and everything is working fine. I would recommend this to anyone else that is having the same type of problem.

    Thank you to everyone that helped with my problem all the info was great!!! Hope this will help anyone else out there with the same problem.
     
  9. ScubaPete

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    Hi Analyzer5,

    Sorry I was so late in getting back to you -

    I've spent the last 8 or 9 days in the hospital. Needed some surgery don't Ya know -

    I'm glad the IDE cable worked out for you - sorry I didn't ask you sooner about it - the 80-wire makes all the difference :)

    At any rate . . . I'm delighted that you've gotten everything working well ~

    I wanted to remind you that you've made a few friends here so we expect to see more of you. Iffin you have the time, feel free to join us helping others. As you've seen, we try to have fun doing it and having you on this side of the table will make it even more fun :D)
    I thought I'd let you know, we have other forums also ~ When you have the time, Check'em out :) There's no telling but you might find one that might be of interest to you. When in doubt, checkout the "Safety Valve", it's an almost anything goes Forum (keeping in fair to medium taste of course). We shoot the breeze about most anything that's on your mind, Events of the day, where members are from, a question someone has and is lQQking for comments on . . . .they don't always get what they're expecting (Lol), Jokes of the day - there's no telling what's there, it can get pretty wild OR check out our forums on Photography, Home Theater components, CD's, PS2's, X-box or Gamecube topics – there's probably even something there about your cellular phone.
    ~ Guess you'll have to check it yourself, "Heck, you might even run into me there ~ ;P)

    I'll lQQk forward to seeing you around, and you better remember to say "Hi" ~

    Till then,

    Sea yaaaaaaaaaaa,

    Pete


    Must be getting old -
     
  10. bobwelsch

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    I used to have the same problems. I would encode successfully with DVDShrink but the burn process would fail with nero everytime. I tried cd burner xp pro3 and would end up with the same result, (burn process failed @18% or somewhere around there.) I recently solved this dilemna by closing out DVD43Free at the end of the encoding process when it asks you to insert a blank media. I've burned over 20 successful dvd's since then. There must be some sort of conflict between Nero 6.6 and DVD43Free. Hope this is helpful to somebody. Bob
     
  11. bonowaxx

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    I've read this whole thread and nothing has helped with my problem.

    I have installed a brand new dvd burner, everything works until I get to 'writing lead in' and then everything stops. On Nero it just stays on that stage forever, on dvd shrink it times out.

    Can somebody put me out of my misery?
     
  12. creaky

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    @bonowaxx - easy (probably). post relevant section of your Nero log minus serial number....
    I'm out on front deck with sunshine & beer, but can hear my emails as i have a Blackberry so post away...

    edit-i had this problem once or twice, can't remember if it was a crappy disc or a good disc with too high a burn speed...
     
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  13. jkeeton

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    I have a problem similar. I use shrink/nero and I can only burn the max speed of a disc. I have used Memorex, and now Sony. What I am saying is: if it is a 1x-8x and I choose anything other than 8x for the speed I get errors in Nero(write error). If I have a 1x-4x and choose lower than 4x speed, same thing. I would like to burn at 4x but the 1x-8x are easier to find for me. I have searched and searched for an answer. I got the nero updates and right after I burned a 1x-8x at 4x speed. This was the only one. I though the updates fixed it, but now its doing it again!Firmware is up too. Also the DMA is OK.
     
  14. creaky

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    @jkeeton - firmware should have sort that for you i would have thought. i'm not sure what else to suggest if you're happy with the firmware. you could post your Nero log anyway but not sure what it could help. I'd do a google search as well and post back..
     
  15. jkeeton

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    I have searched google till my eyes are poppin' out! Thanks for your fast response. They are working well at 8x. I am just afraid that they might not work as well on other players(relatives or friends). I have heard so much about burning slower on these forums. I have had read errors on memorex but not sony. This media will burn a 4x with decrypter but the ISO will only play on one of my players.I use shrink and the only option is Decrypt or Nero. Does anyone know where I can get sony 1x-4x in spindles cheap? Also rebootjim said "why slow down". Just want to know what the issues with burning faster is.
     
  16. creaky

    creaky Moderator Staff Member

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    are you using -R or +R media. If + you can booktype them to play on (in theory) more players. 4x just seems a good reliable speed as you're chucking 4GB of data around in just 15mins at 4x. The 8x speed media and pc setups just aren't always good enough to sustain that kind of thoroughput.
     
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  17. jkeeton

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    I have been using +r with the booktype always checked(box). I found some sony 1x-4x at Kmart. It was the only spindle they had.The rest were 8x. I am sure I can find them online. Do you think that the 1x-4x will slowly be replaced by the 1x-8x? It seems like they are harder to find. Iwas worried more about errors than compatability. I am pretty sure its a software problem(nero). I should be able to choose different speeds than the max. But for now I will burn them at 8x until they are gone. Its better than making coasters! If you find out anything about the writing problem, let me know. Or a good store that carries them(online).Actually I don't have to stay with the sony, I just know they play great on my ps2 slim and player. Didn't want to take chances with others. Thanks
     
  18. creaky

    creaky Moderator Staff Member

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    one problem to watch out for is that you can burn a disc 100% but not see a problem until playback. This is one of the things i dislike about burning DVDs - a burn that's gonna skip or freeze on playback [bold]should[/bold] fail a burn, not only show up on a crc check. I still burn at 4x even with a very good setup and very good media as i've had hardly any failed burns with 500+ movies, but many skipping/freezing films upon playback (using crappy media). Even burnt 2 of my 8x Verbatim at 8x recently and had problems. You can download dvdinfopro to CRC check your discs after they're burnt. This may or may not show up CRC errors. For instance you can happily burn (at say 8x with 8x media and a fast PC setup) and have 100% burn, but crc check your burnt disc and may see crc errors. This would result in freezing or skipping.

    (i know this still doesn't solve your issue with why you can only burn at certain speeds btw)
     
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  19. jkeeton

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    thanks alot! I guess I am just going to stick to the 4x media and burn at 4x.
     
  20. ScubaPete

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    Hi Bob,

    Tis true of the older DVD43. DVD43 ver 3.5.3 should have solved and the current version 3.5.3 has been "tuned-up" even more.

    For a freeware, it is beginning to "sparkle" a bit. If work continues - it may soon beget a shine of its own.

    Should you like to give this more stable proggy a try, Here is the link:

    http://dvd43.com/

    Cheers,

    Pete
     

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