DVD shrink Data Error (cyclic redundancy check)

Uncle Scuba Pete & Co,

I am lucky that I have an uncle as knowledgable as you. Ha ha. As always thanks for your help. I am trying to copy a large dvd and break it up into 2 dvds. I put the main movie (uncompressed-mostly except for a couple of not so important files which I compressed with shrink) on one disc by using decrypter to burn it to the HD and then reauthoring it with shrink and burning an iso. Then I used Nero to burn the ISO to dvd because Decryptor gave me so IO lock error. Well, the video was there, but I had no menu options. Did I do something wrong?

Is there a way to break up the movie and still have the menu options available for both discs when the movie itself is greater than 4.3 gigs? Also, where can I find out how to use ifo edit. I don't really know what I am doing with it.

Thanks again for everyone help.

Thanks Scuba Pete & Co.

P.s. I am going to try to burn a disc with all your valuable writings on files so I can have a guide without having to comb thru all these awesome threads. I am still learning...

 

Howdy there hoogs, and a big "ScubaPete welcome" to aD,

Your post is so good, it had me in tears -

I do so love it when there is some good information with the post

NOW, for your problem -

I see you have the same problem when you've ripped it to your HD with DVD Decrypter and then given it to DVD Shrink. That can only mean that there is some file in there that Shrink doesn't like. My only suggestion at this point is to use some other proggy other than DVD Shrink. Try CloneDVD2 or Nero's recode2 OR, Go to DVD Shrink's re-Author mode, choose Unreferenced materials and extras and compress them to still pictures and try DVD Shrink again.

Let me know how it works -

Pete




Hi westend,

Yep, that sounds right - Whenever you use DVD Shrink's re-author mode, you'll lose your menus

Download Nero AND all of it's extras (FREE for 30-days) use Recode2. it will do the exactly the same thing (the same guy wrote both proggys. BUT you'll keep your menus

Use recode in the "remake the movie" mode and you can choose the "split" the movie at any frame you wish

Once again, use recode2 in the "Remake the movie" mode

Give it a whirl and see how you do -

Pete

 

Hi Scuba Pete,

CloneDVD2 did the job. It's frustrating that DVDShrink
wasn't able to do the job since it's been so successful
with other titles. (I haven't tried the SW bonus disc
yet, but since it did so well on the others I'd guess
it won't have problems with that one either.)

Question: As DVD Decryptor processes, it expands files
from the media platter so they take up quite a bit more
space than a standard 4.3Gb disc; but unlike DVD Shrink
it doesn't have an option that lets you reprocess files
so they fit onto a usual disc. So, it seems irrelevant
to use DVD Decryptor instead of DVDShrink or some other
commercial package like CloneDVD. What am I missing??

 

What you were missing is that a commerical DVD is pressed in 2 layers and the way you're doing it is on a single layer - hence appears larger but really isn't.

Now-a-days (just recently) we now have Dual layer burners and DL discs (at $10.00 ea) so we can copy exactly.

Stick with Shrink for most of your work but for multiple discs, fast copies etc. use CloneDVD2 -

We're glad your burning now -

Consider this an invitation, stop on back, don't be a stranger, you're welcome even if you don't have problems to solve -

You can just "Hang out" and read some, improve your knowledge, help others if you can spot their problem, 3 heads are better than 2 (said the Cyclops to the Ogre). You can check out our forums on Home Theater components, Games, p2p topics or even cellular phones Or you could hang out in the "Safety Valve," a forum for gossiping about anything and everything under the sun
Check de place out, you just might find a little something that'll interest you -

Me ? Hey, I'll be over there, out from under that broiling hot sun, under the "Potted" Palm, right next to the water cooler. Just chewin' the fat and waiting for the next Newbie who needs a bit "O" help - Stop by and say "Howdy" -

I'll be lQQking forward to Sea'n you,

Cheers my friend,

Pete )

 

Is there anybody who could help me with this one: I keep getting this awful "cyclic redundancy check" error message during DVD analisys with DVDShrink 3.1.3, while the movie playback is sloppy and freezes very often. I've replaced my DVD-ROM (LG) with combo drive (HL-FT-ST RW/DVD GCC-4521B), but the problem remained. Ironically, my friend next door bought the very same device - on exactly the same platrform! (AMD Athlon 2500+, MSI motherboard, Windows XP Pro) - and he's enjoying the smoothest and absolutely spottless DVD playback (I've played my own disks on his machine)!? Don't tell me to update the driver, 'cause I've done it twice already! Please, HELP ME!!!

 

Hi racviac,

First off, update your DVD Shrink.

Next, If you read any of our threads you'd see that Shrink cannot alwasy rip every DVD. Sometimes you need to use DVD Decrypter in the file mode then open it and process it as usual. BTW, you never said what DVD you were working with ? ?

What media are you using ?

What guide are you using ?

How much editing are you doing ?



Pete

 

Hi Scuba Pete,

It seems that CloneDVD isn't quite the magic cure-
all. Like ShrinkDVD it wasn't able to deal with
the Star Wars bonus disc -- and I've been seeing a
number of bad rips from certain DVDs processed via
CloneDVD: eg, The Animatrix and Princess Mononoke.
(Whereas, while certain pre v3.2 ShrinkDVD backups
were not always totally crisp I don't recall seeing
bad data artifacts on playback...)

I also noticed an even stranger phenom: CloneDVD
installed on 2 different systems sometimes would
process a disc on one box, but not on the other --
yet both systems had the same OS and DVD burners...
Go figure?

Do you have any other reccos for commercial s/w for
DVD backups besides CloneDVD? In the meantime, I'm
gonna stick with ShrinkDVD for all backups unless
it has issues again with basic processing. ('Sides
who can argue with a price of $0 for great s/w!?

Thx!

 

hoogs,

Toss DVD Decrypter in there also. As it was designed to process Proected Sectors with a List (PSL) for different encryptions it was one of the 3 ways to rip RE 2 and Little Black Book. 2 excellent proggys for the total cost of $0.

Here is the majority of proggys I like to play with There are 2 or 3 not listed here yet -

Keeping each set of programs and their settings separated is very important. Too many choices cause confusion and lead to coasters :-(

With all the tools you have, don't confuse which order you should use when using which programs.

As a matter of fact, I believe you should print out a recipe for each set of Programs you use for burning - and their separate settings -


ScubaPete's program Rating Chart. (in no specific order)

DVD Shrink, Very good ripper, excellent for normal backups (using the Deep Analysis and Quality Enhancements)

DVD Decrypter, good for burning w/ DVD Shrink and excellent for problem rips.

Nero Ultra Edition, good to excellent suite of proggys - wide range of uses

DVD2One, excellent for joining "Flipper" DVD's and doing episodel work

Nero's recode2, excellent for custom editing DVD's, joining "flipper" DVD while keeping the menus

CopyToDVD, excellent for burning, considered the fastest burning proggy around

AnyDVD, the best "behind the scenes" DVD Ripper (can't do it all, still requires a backup ripper)

DVD43 (free), fair to medium for a "behind the scenes" ripper

CloneDVD2 (elby), very good for an encoder / burner when DVD's register 95% or better

CloneDVD 2(not elby), poor to fair doing anything. Not recommended

DVD XCopy, RF Platinum w/patch, fair to good for movie only. Not recommended, too many conflicts, discontinued

dvd Santa, fair to medium as an "all-in-one" rendering proggy

DVDCopy 2 (InterVideo), very good encoding / burning proggy, extremely fast


ScubaPete's Basic Cooking Recipes

FOR DVD-5's and DVD-9's

1. DVD Shrink (ver. 3.2) ISO mode + DVD Decrypter, ISO write mode (FREE)

2. DVD Shrink (ver 3.2) + Nero (ver 6, Ultra Edition)

3. DVD Shrink (ver 3.2) + CopyToDVD

4. AnyDVD or DVD43 + DVD2One + CopyToDVD

5. AnyDVD or DVD43 + CloneDVD2 (elby)

6. AnyDVD or DVD43 + Nero Recode 2

For DVD-5's ONLY

7. DVD Decrypter in the ISO read mode + DVD Decrypter in the ISO write mode

8. AnyDVD or DVD43 + Nero Express (copy Disc to Disc)

FOR DVD-5's and DVD-9's

9. DVD XCopy Xpress (Pre RF versions) (ver. 2.5.1, 3.0, 3.2.1) + Gone321

10. DVD XCopy Original (ver 1.5.0, 1.5.2) - (Pre RF versions)

11. DVD XCopy Platinum (RF using the "321RIP" patch)

12. DVD Decrypter (File Mode) + DVDCopy2 (InterVideo - fast w/ excellent quality)

13. DVD Decrypter + dvd Santa

14. AnyDVD + dvd Santa

15. AnyDVD + CloneDVD (.net not elby)
(Little or no compression, it's a poor proggy, DO NOT PURCHASE)


PROGRAM LINKS (In order of popularity by Pete) :

DVD Shrink - http://www.dvdshrink.org/

DVD Decrypter - http://www.dvddecrypter.com/

Nero Ultra Edition Trial - http://www.ahead.de/us/nero6-ultraedition.php

Nero recode2 - http://www.ahead.de/us/632261771103079.php

AnyDVD - http://www.slysoft.com/en/anydvd.html

DVD43 (Patin-cauffin Drivers, mid-page) - http://www.mrbass.org/dvdrip/

CopyToDVD (CopyToCD) - http://esales.element5.com/product.html?cart=1&productid=157972&languageid=1&affiliateid=70128#

CloneDVD2 (By elby) - http://www.elby.ch/en/products/clone_dvd/download.html

DVD2One - http://www.afterdawn.com/software/video_software/dvd-r_tools/dvd2one.cfm

InterVideo Copy 2 DVD - http://www.intervideo.com/jsp/InterVideoDVDCopy_Profile.jsp

dvd Santa - http://www.dvdsanta.com/features.htm

DVD XCopy - Unavailable - Not manufactured, Not supported.
DVD XCopy Xpress - Unavailable - Not manufactured, Not supported.
DVD XCopy Platinum - Unavailable - - Not manufactured, Not supported.

CloneDVD ver2 (by The Other Guys) - http://www.clonedvd.net/download.html
(IMHO, An extremely bad purchase.)

Enjoy,

Pete

 

thanks for all this wonderful information and for taking the time to put it in a comprehensive guide. Quick question do know where there is a guide for DVDRemake?

 

weehawk,

With just 2 mousie-type clicks on aD's "search" functionI found these guides to do quite a few things with DVD Remake -

I hope at least one of them will help -

http://www.afterdawn.com/search/search_results.cfm?hakusanat=dvdremake

Cheers,

Pete

 

Sorry All. I figured out that it basically meant that I just needed to open the dvd drive and close it and hit it again. Sorry for the post. I tried to delete it, but it would not let me.

Cheers all! Happy New Years!

 

@westend,

Though you cannot delete your post you can clickon the "edit" icon at the top right-hand side of your post then go in and remove almost everything you did type.

Usally when I screw up (and yes, it happens) I just type "OOps" and that's all there is to it - for the next time

Pete

 

Ok well need some help plz I have been copying moves no problem and all the sudden everytime I copy my move I can play it but if I want to reanalysis it it says data erroe (cyclic redundancy check)so what is my problem plz help me

 

my5angels,

You get that error when you use crappy media - try using something of a higher quality -

Pete

 

This is a great thread.

Pete, your suggestions work great. Thanks.

I did the rip using the DVD Decrypter settings recommended earlier and managed to get around the CRC error. But one one of the vob files was blank (DVD Decrypter had inserted dummy sectors throughout). Ripping just that file did the same thing but when I cancelled and retried, I got the file (still got 1 dummy sector at the beginning though). Weird. Same thing happened on my laptop too. I hope it's a consistent work around if I ever have the same problem in the future.

Someone earlier mentioned that Tmpgenc can convert vob files to jpegs. Is this Tmpgenc Plus? I tried it and while it doesn't recognize .vob extensions, opening the vob files anyways sometimes worked, sometimes didn't. Is there a specific version of Tmpgenc I should be using? I really just wanted to extract every 30th frame (to timelapse the video) so if anyone knows a program that will do this, please let me know.

 

So the dvd encrypter can forcably ignore the cyclic redundency check error on dvd's , my problem is on a cd , how can i extract ? can i choose instead of dvd a cd-r in the program or no?

 

LarGand,

When DVDD takes care of that "Dummy" VOB - you'll have a black screen prior to movie. I suggest using Recode2 in the Remake DVD Mode to edit it out and still maintain your full functioning menu.



@ Shortfuse,

It's what it did in this case. each case is different -

I suggest that you take your query to a forum dealing with CD's.

This is where you need to be . . .

http://forums.afterdawn.com/forum_view.cfm/38

Cheers,

 

I am having the same problems w/ cyclic redundancy erros. It is not the disc. I belive it is some kind on new encryption that cannot be broken by the current version of shrink. The two DVDs so far that I have seen this type of error is "Little Black Book" and "The Forgotten". Unfortunately I cannot get around this error with any of my current buring programs.

 

russt999,
Download the latest version of Decrypter and rip your movies to your hard drive with Decrypter in File mode first. Decrypter will handle the new encryption!!

 

bbmayo,

Thanks for the tip. I have the latest version of Decrypter. Can you please give me the steps to follow in order to rip and then copy. I usually just use Shrink which does both.

Thanks,
Russt999