@quasheezy, The reason you're not having any luck is that you haven't ripped the encryption first. You need to use something like DVD Decrypter OR AnyDVD to decrypt the movie THEN you can use CloneDVD2 and Nero. actually decrypter is what i use to rip my movies to my hard drive. i've only been making backups for about a year now, but decrypter is the one program that has never given me any problems! i unistalled roxio like you suggested, and used the zapper to clear the registry. i unistalled nero(with all the necessary tools and restarts) and reinstalled, but i'm still not having the best luck with shrink. it works fine, it just takes a little too long for my tastes. i have an hdtv and a pretty nice dvd player or whatever, so quality is something i most certainly am concerned with. shrink is a great program, but it takes about 3 hours to compress a movie down to burnable size, 5 if i use deep analysis. i'm absolutely certain that it's my system's limitations that are suffocating shrink, so i'll most definitely take your advice about the msconfig and ram upgrade. However, I do have a question about shrink that you may be able to help with. Say I've already ripped a 7 gig movie to my hard drive using decrypter and I want to burn it to a dvd 5 using shrink. [bold]can shrink burn it directly to the dvd without first compressing it in a backup folder?[/bold] i think that would be an instrumental part of speeding up the process. i ask this because that is what the roxio program i used did. the max it would take depending on the amount of compression necessary, was about 15 minutes and quality was excellent. however, about 85% of the people i've come across in dvd forums will say that roxio was a program created by the devil himself. and when this many people agree, there's certainly some truth to it. i guess i was just one of the few it worked well for. oh well, i'll be building a new pc soon, so hopefully shrink will work a bit quicker on that one.