DVD Shrink encoding time too long!

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  1. dumb-o

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    what do you mean by "special burn function" of dvd decrypter?

    thank again. i will try your proposed method tonight, regarding pressing the 'w' key and whatnot.
     
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    DVD Decrypter is a powerful ripping tool and that is its primary function. I'm calling its ability to burn an ISO file a special function.
     
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    Doc409, Veblin,

    thanks so much for all your help! I am proud to annouce that my white whale has been slain-- i successfully burned my first [encrypted] dvd last night. Uunlike some people, I can firmly and accurately declare, "Mission Accomplished."

    Doc409, you were right on . . . cleaning the disc sped up the transfer rate to 6000kb/s. i didn't even notice how dirty it was. also, in dvd decrypter, i was able to encode in ISO mode and not "to hard disk file" as previously done.

    thanks so much for all the continuing assistance--you guys are great. i will spread the word about this site. yeah!
     
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    dumb-o...I'm glad you got things working. I would also mention that a lot of problems can result from a fragmented drive. A common one is a burned disc with choppy video...yet the movie on the HDD plays fine. I usually defrag after every 3 burns. If I delete the movie files first, it only takes a minute or two.

    Good luck.

     
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    Hi. I'm having problems with DVD Shrink encoding speeds. I'm not encoding with deep-analysis or other options that would slow it down. I used to get btwn 4000-7000kbs. I installed xp service pack 2 and it would take hours to encode. I reformatted my harddrive and did not reinstall service pack 2. I also reinstalled DVD Shrink several different times to see if it would make differnce. I'm still getting really slow encoding times and even though I have the current version of Nero it is no longer an available option to burn (only Decypter). I've been using DVD Decrypter to rip the discs with very good speed between 8x-16x, because when I try Dvd Shrink I'm getting less than 1,000 kb/s. When I use the file the encoding starts out fast 6,000 kb/s and then goes all the way down to about 1,800kb/s within a minute or two. Here's my computer spec. AMD XP 2800, Gigabyte GA-7N400 pro2, 1GB memory, 3 ATA 133 and 1-sata harddrive, a Plextor 712a, a NEC 1100A burner. I've made sure that the drives are set to ultra dma, I've increased the page file to 4000mb, on all the harddrives, I've disabled the startup and processes with no increased speed. I know at one time I could encode and burn two separate movies at a time and I got relatively decent speeds. Any suggestions what might be wrong? Thanks for any ideas and sorry for the long post.
     
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    No problem with the long post...it is all good info. My first thought is that your CPU has an overheating problem.

    Launch the Performance funtion of Task Manager. See above for instructions. Your CPU should be around 15 to 40% for Decrypter. For Shrink, a constant 100%. If you see it drop with Sfhrink, it likely means your CPU is overheating. If not, you might have a memory module going bad. Let us know what read-out you get, and then it will be possible to direct you further.
     
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    Hi. Thanks Doc409 for posting quickly. I ran Decypter again and its using under 20%, and Dvd Shrink is at 100%.
     
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    OK, so with the CPU showing 100%, you are saying that Shrink is showing about 1000 kbs?
     
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    It sounds like a combination of 2 problems. First, I would dl a new Shrink file, as the one you are using may be corrupt in some way.

    You should also be able to use Nero, and if not, it is likely the ASPI layer (but this has nothing to do with slow Shrink encode times). Launch Nero's Infotools, and check the ASPI tab. Post the results. It should be a green bar if everything is OK.
     
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    Hi Doc409, I checked the ASPI and it says its installed and working. I downloaded DVD Shrink and installed it several different times and on different drives and its still having problems. When I try to encode using disc in plextor it would analyze 1,000 kb/s or less and would take over 5min. Before I started having problems it analyzed a disc under a minute. Now I have to rip the disc to hard drive which Decrpter does do it fast. When I use the files and encode Shrink it starts out 5,000-6,000 kb/s and after 1 min it drops to low 2,000kb/s goes from saying it will be complete in 20-30 min to over an hour and after another min it has dropped to under 2,000 kb/s with the CPU working at 100%. In the past when Shrink was working right it would start out 3,000kb/s and increase to 4,000-5,000. I don't know what's going on. I thought buying a SATA drive would decrease the time it takes to encode and burn but I guess not. Thanks for you ideas and help.
     
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    Have you tried different DVD's? Does it do the same with all of them? Sometimes you can get a problem DVD that Shrink doesn't like, but Decrypter handles very well. This is especially true of some of the newer releases.


     
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    Hi Doc409, its doing it with all discs. I didn't have these problems until I installed service pack 2. Not only did I have problems with Shrink but Decrypter was reading at less than 1,000. I tried to restore the computer to previous point before I had trouble but it wouldn't let me do it. I then reinstalled xp and still had problems, so I then reformated the drive and installed XP, Decrypter, Nero and Shrink. Decrypter seems to be working fast. I've installed Shrink several more times and downloaded to see if it would recognize Nero but so far no luck. The speeds its encoding is agonizing. Any more suggestions. I wish I had never installed sp2. Thanks
     
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    Well, we could check to make sure your drives are in DMA mode, and not PIO. Since things are OK with Decrypter, I would think that DMA would be OK. The easiest way to check is to go back to Nero INfoTools, and check the "Configuration" tab. It should show DMA ON for all channels. Post what you find.
     
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    Hi. I checked on the nero info tool. It doesn't say DMA on it says auto run. I checked in the device manager and the
    (primary channel)-'master' current-Ultra DMA5-ultra 100. transfer bios default.
    'slave'-Ultra DMA6-ultra 133- transfer bios default

    (secondary channel)-'master' ultra DMA2-ultra 33

    raid controller it doesn't say anything about dma or pio
    the sata drive- ultra DMA6
    Why isn't it showing up in Nero? I really appreciate your help. Thanks
     
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    The "Current Transfer Mode" should show "Ultra DMA Mode"...at least that what it does with W2k...which I use. I would suggest you also check your BIOS and make sure it is also set for DMA Enabled.


     
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    Double Post.


     
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    Hi. I checked in the bios and the only reference to DMA was ECP. Where should I find it in BIOS? Was there something I was suppossed to do when I reinstalled windows? It does shows current transfer Ultra DMA but tranfer mode with drop down box is set to bios default, which I've tried to change but stays at bios default. I'm trying to update new drivers for ide/controller through ms updates to see if it changes. I don't remember what updates I had before I reinstalled XP the other day. Previous to the reinstallation my computer was up to date and stable for over 4 months. Have you had any problems with the service pack 2? I'm wondering if I get this problem worked out if I should try the update again. That's what started the trouble. I thought everything would be working properly again when I started fresh with a clean install of XP. I'm hoping its software related but it could be hardware as I've been experiencing several power surges one right after the other on more than one occasion the last two days. It doesn't look like my APC power backup is doing what it is supposed to. Is there a program that I can use to test the hardware. Thanks for your help.
     
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    About SP2. I think a lot of people have installed it without a problem. Since you had a problem, I'm thinking that you had a software conflict brewing anyway.

    Right now all indications are that you didn't get a good install of XP the last time around. You do need to go online to get the updates, and you should have an *updated* anti-virus program running when you do ... or you could pick up a virus before your XP system is completely updated. This is what happened with me with W2k, anyway.

    About your hardware...indications are that it is working properly. As you pointed out, things were stable before SP2 was installed. This definitely points to a software problem.


     
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    Hi. Before I reinstall xp again what setup do you recommend. Here's my current setup:
    IDE 1- master 60GB WD unsure if ata 100 or 133- currently has operating system; slave 120GB Maxtor which is 133;

    IDE 2- Primary Plextor 712a dvd writer - set cable select

    (Raid but setup for ATA)
    IDE 3- 80GB Seagate Barracudu which i believe ata 100

    IDE 4- NEC 1100 DVD writer set CS

    SATA - 160 GB WD

    What in your opinion would be the appropriate setup to get the fastest system. Thanks.

    ps I updated my system bios and still could not find an option in the bios to see if it was set for ultra dma
     
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    Hi Doc409. I installed the newer nvidia drivers and it changed my setup. I was able to run a speed test. This is the results. I don't know anything about the results so I don't know if its good or bad.
    Primary
    Master
    WD 60GB-Ultra DMA 5-Ultra 100
    Theoretical limit: 100.00
    Burst Speed: 84.9
    Sustained Speed: 46.7
    Slave
    Maxtor 120GB-Ultra DMA 6-Ultra 133
    Theoretical limit: 133.3
    Burst Speed: 107.5
    Sustained: 47.5

    Secondary Channel
    Plextor 712A
    Ultra Dma-2
     

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