try anydvd and clone2. u can get them at slysoft.com. there is a free 21 day trial. dvdxcopy wont do the new protection on dvds. here is the link for a free way to do the new stuff ... http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/360110 ... heres dvdxcopy forums ... http://dvdxcopy.afterdawn.com/