Hello everyone, I have a question for anyone with dvd burning experience. Is it possible to achive the same quailty of a "DVD9" once it been compressed to a "DVD5". I mean with all the different programs editing and tweaking tools. I know you can get good results with quailty "MEDIA" DVD BURNERR and SLOW BURNING". Still going from a DVD9 to a DVD5 your still loosing something. can anyone shead any light on this subject please thank you John Bryson
Regardless if you're using the greatest program this earth has ever seen, if you're compressing, you will lose quality. It doesn't matter how much compression, once you're compressing, that's it. Think of it like this: You're trying to fit a square into a circular hole, and to do this, you're gonna have to shave some of it off and force it in. In other words, it's not gonna be the same. With all that said, you can still use other programs that can minimize the quality loss. The best program is DVD Rebuilder. Unlike many programs out there, this completely re-encodes the title--which is why it takes so damn long. But it's worth it. Other than that, if you use the deep analysis and quality controls in Shrink, that'll help too. If you use these two programs methods, you'll hardly notice a loss in quality unless you're literally right in front of the TV. But make no mistake about it, when you compress, you will lose quality. Burning at slower speeds will reduce the amount of [potential] errors during a burn. And quality media will produce longevity and increased playability.
Hello Mr Pink, I hope all is going well and your having a wonderful day. thank you so much for answering my question so fast. I think you just reinsured the same thoughts i had on "QUAILTY LOSS". Now myself i am a 100 % total quailty guy. At the present time i am using anydvd along side clone dvd 2. as you stated any time you compress you will lose. Is dvd rebuilder a program i can buy online. I don't mind paying for quailty programs that will work. I see a lot of people using cracked programs i myself don't like that idea. The problem i find with them is getting the upgrades and all so i just pay for my stuff. I also see a lot of people using the free programs from places like DOOM9.com. I will not knock that becauce i have never used or tried any of them. I am still in the learning stages as i am very new to this all. Is dvd rebuilder a program like clone dvd 2 and it is to use. any help would be appreaciated thank you very much John Bryson
http://dvd-rb.dvd2go.org IMO, DVD Rebuilder is easy to use. Set it and forget it - for the night. Wake up in the morning and all is ready. Along with RB you will need a good encoder. Many use CCE SP, which carries a price tag of nearly $2K. CCE Basic can be bought for $60, but limits to two passes. http://www.cinemacraft.com/ You will find RB will take a lot longer to backup a movie. The reason is the entire movie will be encoded instead of being transcoded. Regardless, compressing a movie will result in some quality loss. RB will minimize that quality loss.
DVD RB is really that great! I sometimes let it go over night as well lol. At worst though, I think one movie took me 300 something minutes. It was massive! lol Most of the time, however, it takes about 3 hours and change.
Hello Mr pink thank you for replying so fast i appreaciate it a lot. I think you may be right about DVD RB because i have also heard it from several other people. Here is my thing I heard that DVD RB is still in the beta form and stages. If i was to buy it i would buy the professional version. the trial is ok to try but you never get all the full features with the trail version. Is there any other plugins you need for DVD RB or once you get it or download it your ready to rip and run any help be nice thanks Pink John Bryson
Hello Mr Pink, I was just checking out the DVD REBUILD Page. it also says i need other plugins is this so. i mean for the money i will be spending to get a great quailty dvd 5 . I could buy the dvd r + DL and the only quailty i would lose is the copying quailty because there be no compression. what do you think any help be real nice thank you John Bryson
@brysonj, Yes, you can purchase DL's, but as an avid Rebuilder Pro user I would suggest getting the Installer program at Dvd-Rb and it will install everything you need, except CCE Basic. Set it and forget it...pretty simple and the quality is awe-some. I have CCE Basic installed and when I compare between the Original and the backup...at times it is pretty hard to see the difference and that is viewing on a 55 inch HDTV 16X9. The Rebuilder Pro is worth it and using the included encoders (free) like HC by Hanks the quality is still hard to beat by many of the programs out there...for movies that do not require a lot of compression less than 20% then I will mix it up between Rebuilder, CloneDvd 2 and Recode 2. Download Rebuilder and check it out. MovieDud
Hi movie dude, Thanks for responding so quickly i appreaciate it a lot. i was checking out a web site for basic cee and this is what i came up with. CCE-SP is allows you to directly encode AVI, QuickTime and DV files into pristine, DVD compliant MPEG-2 streams with the most intricate and precise parameter settings available. Ideal for creating MPEG-2 streams for non-liner video editors, 3DCG animators, Game creators and DVD professionals. what i am doing is just copying the movie from the orignal dvd to the hard drive then onto a black dvd. if my understanding is right this BASIC CEE is an encoder for these types of files am i right. if so i don't think i would be needing the basic cee. any help would be nice thank you John Bryson
Hi brysonj, CCE is a plugin encoder that works with rebuilder. I got the $60 one, not the 2K one . It is better than the free ones provided with rebuilder in that it works faster, and does a better job of encoding than the free ones. I too bought rebuilder, and you get the Pro version for that, along with free program updates for life. Its pretty good, though slow as many have stated. I use it when i cant get above 70% in clone or shrink, and when i dont feel like using a DL on the movie. AD has a rebuilder forum here also, and if you run into any problems with it, that would be a good place to look for answers. Im not good enough with it to be able to post in that forum, so i just lurk there for the most part. http://forums.afterdawn.com/forum_view.cfm/157
Hello Maxburn, Thank you as always for responding so quickly because i know your on a busy schedule. As you said to me before posting in the forms would get me many responses. I tell you something i am a really shy person but "MAN i am having a field day here and learning stuff. Anyway i think i will only burn with DVD R + DL when it is really nessessary. I mean i have viewed the DVD R + on a 27 inch tv it not to bad but there always room for improvement. what i need to do now is break out the "VERBS" and stay away from the "MEMORIX". I have already have experienced a few issuse but it due to the bad MEDIA. i have good stuff and all the programs are up to date. When i am burning there is nothing running in the back ground at all so it comes back to media. Any how i am not sure if i want to get DVD REBUILDER ALONG WITH CCS BASIC. I am not sure how deep or involved and far i am going to take this dvd copying or burning as of yet. I mean i think i set out to back up a few movies as well as burn some for family and friends. but i have taken it a lil to far i spend a lot so far for someone starting out. what i need to do is learn all i can about the programs i am working with and the hardware and media and be happy with it. Thank you again Max for being there and answering my questions have a safe and wonderful day now John Bryson
