DVDshrink shows TWO main movie file

Hello

I use dvdshrink and after loading a dvd I usually see the two main movie file of the same size e.g. X men 2 and i could see two file both 6GB.

So how can we tell which file is the main one or what to select for decryption.

please help

 

Use the video preview to watch each of them, then you can select the correct one.

 

It might be that it has widescreen and 4:3 on the same disc. In which case just watch a bit and see (as mentioned) then choose which you want.

It also might be that one of them has extras in it like the special effects explained for which it pauses the movie and jumps to the second layer and plays a bit of footage from that.
The movie is the same size but has many layer breaks in it.
You can check by opening the Ifo of the titleset in Ifoedit and looking at the structure.
The main film will have one (at most) layer breaks in it. The other version will have loads.

 

when both titles are same size (6GB) than you can check each of them with preview.

i think, there ist in each title the same video insert.
remember, 2*6GBytes are bigger then 9GByte ;o)

you can select one of the two titles, when both have the same size, they have no different features

 

2 Main movies the same size are probably Wide screen---FULL screen. Its kind of hard to tell in Shrinks preview which is which. Usually (not always) Wide screen is 1st one. At least what I have seen. Jerry

 

One's the main movie and one's the movie with commentary (director, actors, etc.).

 

Commentaries are always just audio tracks that you select instead of the real audio track.

As other users mentioned before, the two movies are just different screen formats (widescreen and 16:9, at least on my xmen2 dvd) of the same movie, choose yourself which one you like better.

 

widescreen is 16:9. 4:3 is pan and scan,but you are right about the commentaries

The reason I suggested looking in IFOedit is that it may not be immediately apparent which is which depending on how you watch it and it may be that one is a special version with cut aways to extra features (as I mentioned) which may not happen for a while into the movie, so you'd have to watch a lot to find out.

 

How the f*ck did this simple question get so complicated?

If your gonna discuss other problems, please start a new thread, or answer the question sensibly.

Peace!

 

It all looks on topic to me (except your post of course).
Sometimes things aren't as simple as they appear.

 

Yeah right, doesn't look that way!

And yours, and this one.

The ans was simple, just preview with DVD Shrinks [bold]video preview[/bold].
Lets not get all complicated about such an easy problem.

Have you sorted the problem neo2004?

 

Hi neo, If the difference isn't clear I'd just rip one or the other and watch it on PowerDVD and see if I picked the right one. I have seen a movie that had two main titles, one with the directors commentary, the other with the regular audio. I think it was triple X.

good luck,
frank

 

That was someone trying to help but they got it wrong, it wasn't off topic.

And it isn't always that simple as I said.
If you were watching a version of the film that explained the special effects with cut aways to another layer of the disc the first such cut away might not be for some time, so starting to watch it wouldn't help.

It's good to have all the options when looking at something so that if the most simple isn't the case you can try something else.

 

Further research after reading the same topic in another forum leads me to apologize to joetex72.
Sometimes the different audio tracks are indeed on different program chains.

The Two Towers extended edition for instance has 11 PGCs 5 or 6 of which are the full film each with a different sound track.
This can lead to confusion when using Shrink (or similar) as if you reauthor and drag the main movie across it shows as 21GB !!!
You need to choose the right title set to get the right sound.

There you go, you learn something every day

 

I guess my comments were way too harsh, too, in that case. Sorry, guys!
In all the 75 or so rips I've made (including the Xmen2 of which this thread originally started), I've never come across a dvd were the commentaries would have been anything else than additional soundtracks, which can be selected instead of the original soundtrack. I've never seen dvds with two version of the same movie, one normal version and one with layer breaks to additional selectable special features, although I've seen many that had these special selectable features throughout the movie. (These had to be activated in a special features menu)
I have seen a couple of dvds which contained two different screen sizes, though...
All this led to the assumption that it had to be this way in this specific case, too - obviously it isn't neccessarily that way. And as malum said, you learn every day!

But... I have also ripped and compressed the two towers extended version, and mine did not have two versions of the film!! Also here the commentaries were just additional soundtracks (I guess there were the total of 4 commentary audio tracks) which were easily removed just by unchecking the appropriate box in DVD Shrink. This leads me to another assumption (please correct me if I'm wrong): Since I'm in Europe and the movies rip are always PAL 2 movies, which usually contain tons of different subtitles and language selections, it might be, that here the commentary tracks are always just plain audio tracks, because all the different languages and subtitles would not fit one DVD-9 elsewise. In the States (PAL 1 region), where most of you guys propably reside, the dvds propably don't contain all that extra language related stuff our dvds have, therefore the setup might be different there. But as was pointed out already earlier in the discussion, the original question from neo2004 already shows that the video files in this case have to be the same in both movies, since they wouldn't fit the disc elsewise.
And come to think of it, the same applies also for you two towers version, malum, since the 21G would not even fit two discs!
But anyway, sorry for the hazzle, and neo2004, hope you have your problem already solved by now!

 

My Two Towers is Pal region 2 (I'm in the UK)
the extra program chains just reference the movie there aren't 6 copies of the movie on the disc just one but instead of having the movie in one PGC and then the extra soundtracks it somehow has the movie in 6 PGCs and the others are the film with audio commentaries from the director etc.

The main PGC has the AC3 and the DTS soundtracks in it.
If you open the IFO with IFOedit it lists the other PGCs and what the audio is (from memory they are listed as directors commentary and the like)

I don't know how it's done and I'm not sure why it's done. Just a different way of doing things I guess, but Shrink doesn't like it much and unless you choose one title (the film with soundtrack) it will produce either a huge fileset or if you let it compress then it will produce 6 copies of the movie all with different soundtracks and all very compressed

 

Does this happen only in the reauthoring mode? I didn't reauthor, just opened it up in Shrink and it showed me just one movie title with 7 or so audio tracks, from which it was easy to select the wanted one. Compression went like like a charm and the result looked as good as the original, including menus. Only the commentary tracks were missing. Funny how I've managed to avoid that problem without ever knowing it's existence....

 

I don't know I didn't look, but I guess it must from what you say.

I'll have a look later

 

Yep. If you don't reauthor then it is fine.
As you can see from the picture it isn't if you do.
Although the main title still contains all the soundtracks including the directors commentary the other titles contain one commentary each.
Very odd.

 

I guess this is a DVD Shrink bug. But as you said, it's not a problem if you don't use reauthoring.