What do we know... How do you propose guessing a high security encrypted piece of data? Here is how to read the thing, and where it is! http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/357863 The words xbox eeprom come up so often at AD you just need to use the search function.. Multiposting and asking obvious questions in an attempt to boost member level doesn't cut much ice with established members, actually it tends to annoy us!! ;-)