hi again. hopefully you guys/gals can help me out again. i am trying to back up "epic movie" and everything i try craps out with "cyclic redundancy" and other read errors. there are no scratches on the disc to make it unreadable. i have tried anydvd w/ dvdshrink, anydvd w/ dvddecrypter, anydvd's ripper, ripit4me 1.7.1 w/ fixVTS and nothing can break this gorramn thing. i have a sony vaio pent.3 1.8ghz, 80gb hd, windows xp and a sony DRU-700A dual layer burner. this is the first movie that i have not been able to back up, and since my teenage nieces love these type of movies i just know that it will be scratched up after their many visits this summer. thanks in advance to all that help!!!