i know i have posted alot of threads latly but i promise this is my last. i have been working on this for the past three days. here is my final build list lemme know what you think! Computer parts for build: Case Apevia X-Cruiser ATX Black ($79.99) http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1446794&Sku=A107-1050 Cpu Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 ($189.99) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115017 Cpu fan ARCTIC COOLING Freezer 7 ($36.99) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835186134 Motherboard ATX Intel Motherboard ($119.99) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128359 Memory CORSAIR DOMINATOR 4GB ($74.00) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145214 Video card SAPPHIRE 100245L ($154.99) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102770 Sound card Creative Labs Sound Blaster Audigy SE ($29.99) http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1870098&CatId=2771 Hard drive Western Digital ($119.99) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136284 Cd drive Lite-ON DVD Burner ($29.99) http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=4291644&CatId=482 Power supply PC Power & Cooling ($79.99) http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3247721&CatId=2533 OS Windows vista home premium ($109.99) http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2864281&CatId=3778 Total = $918.91
Hi!!!! I'm new here =DD Well anyways, on your build, I hope I'm not too late, but I'd recommend going for the i7s now, as they have generally better clock to clock performance; but its all up to you. Again, your CPU is going to cost you $200 anyways. The mobo that I found at newegg that is a LGA1366 (openbox) costs only $150! http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130216R $150 Because of the strong CPU, you can basically cheapen out on the sound card and let the CPU take care of that. CPU is a 920 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115202 $300. So essentially, you are paying ehh, $100 more, but think; you've futureproofed yourself for sometime longer, lots more than with a 775 board/CPU. Cooling - just use stock until some better CPU cooling comes out! I know that the 4850 is a great deal. What I'd recommend is go with either a 4870 which will cost you like $30 more @ newegg, or go down to the 4830 or the 8800gt level of cards, and buy a GPU cooler with the saved money. Why? The 4870 is a bit faster, costing you $30, while a 4830 overclocked will meet the 4850 speeds. The extra $30 on the GPU save can get you, i dunno, a accelero S1/2 and turbo fans, which you may be able to bring over onto never GPUs you can buy in the future. RAM- You'll need new RAM if you buy the i7s. No suggestions here. Ummm, if you are going to stay with what you have, i'd go with a dual core, (if i were you). Again, depends on what you're doing. Again, gaming, dual cores for now. (A 775 may last you just 2 years or so, maybe). E5200 = less -> overclocks like a jackass =DD (again, good batch, good rev/stepping). Good luck =DD I hope you take the 1366 into consideration EDIT: I guess things like encoding, the Q6600 will do okay. HD, maybe get a WDR 10K over the 1TB drive you have. Again, if capacity is the issue, stay with the 1TB; if not, why not get a fast HD over such a big one =D. (I would've waited one more year if i knew that the 1366 were coming out =S)
in all honesty im not a huge computer buff. lol all i need is for my computer to run world of warcraft. will my build do that?
Without wishing to sound too harsh or condescending, GenesisX is clearly relatively inexeperienced with regard to game builds. A Core i7 for your system will not be necessary. The build as you've laid out is fine. The case isn't the best for the money by any means, but since you like tacky Apevia-style cases, that's your decision. Also, for future reference, stick to one thread. It's polite. The build you outlined will run World of Warcraft very well indeed.
Well, whatever. In actuality, if all your going to do is play WoW, you wouldn't even need what you have right now. If you are going to pay $200 on a Q6600 which is nothing but trash for the cost, why not just pay $100 on a Ci7 which will last you so much longer. sammorris, I'm not trying to boast, nor am I a modest type of person, but I've been doing this for 3 years now, at which I started at the age of 11? Yes maybe you've started way before I did, nor do I think I'm better than you. You are in all sense the dude here. But again, why buy a Q6600, when you can go and buy yourself a Pentium 3, or Pentium 4, or even just a plain old Athlon to play WoW. It will in all sense work. For what I'm really trying to point out is, yes, you don't need a Core i7 to run WoW. You don't need a C2Q to run WoW either. It's however, better to make use of the $900 PC you're going to build anyways. You know, for WoW, why not just go for a refurbished Pentium 4 which will cost you $100. Throw in a 6600GT, and there you go. If you don't like my build, then don't utilize it; I really just want to help.
WoW is what you make of it. Graphical enhancements in Wrath of the LichKing, plus the general crowded environment mean the game can actually be quite stressful on hardware. However, that said, I'm sure there are still many more demanding games out there, even if we exclude the obvious ones like console ports and Crysis. A Core 2 Quad Q6600 build costs $350 for 4GB of high performance RAM and an excellent board. A Core i7 build with 6GB (more appropriate, as 3GB isn't really enough for some applications, especially in Vista) will set you back around $700, which is a hell of a lot more than $100 extra. The i7 CPUs themselves are good value, but the platform as a whole, not so much. For video encodes, the i7s strip the pants off the Core 2 Quads, but in games, the i7 920 can barely outpace the Q6600, let alone the better Core 2 Quads which stil work out better value. For WoW, a 6600GT and P4 is not going to cut it at remotely high settings. I don't play WoW, but I know roughly how demanding the game is. Ultimately, if you have the money to spend, why compromise? A great deal of WoW players are very dedicated and want the game to run as well as possible. Yes, you don't need Dual graphics and an overclocked Quad core for that, but having decent hardware is important to a lot of people.
Well, if high settings are performance is all you seek, I don't see much reason of running Vista on a DX9 Game either. Thing is, the gap isn't truly so big that a Core i7 wouldn't be bought. The increase in money isn't much, and the step is somewhat big. If you somewhat remember, the change from the 754s (if I'm correct) -> 939 -> AM2 pissed many people off, as the the 939 stage wasn't truly big. Why not wait the 939 stage, and go for the AM2 Stage. Here, the 1366 is placed right in front of you, and you are going back to the 754s to save $200, where the initial cost is $900. Wanna run WoW on high settings: E5200 = $80, 8800GS = $80, P35 board = $80, Case + PSU = $60, 2 GBs of Ram = $20, 250 GB HD = $50, DVD Drive = $30, and at the end, XP SP3 = $100. =$500. I'm not sure of WoW's need for highest settings, but if that's not enough, go and get yourself a 4830 or nevertheless a 8800GT. Clock the E5200 to 4Ghz. Cooling on Stock. There you go!!! EDIT: Decent Hardware is important, as I bet, all of us agree. But $900 computer build isn't just decent hardware; it ought to get you a good computer nowadays. Quote: "Well, some pizza is better than nothing" "It's not better than nothing if you paid $5 for pizza. It's better than nothing when its free!" I'm sorry if I made this into an argument. Sorry if I did anything to offend you sammorris. But I really don't want to be criticized for being a noob, nevertheless not knowing anything. EDIT: Sorry bout the DX9 thing. I think Wrath of the LichKing runs on DX10. Mistake there =D
The step is practically nil, for almost all games, and the step up in cost is huge. You must also bear in mind that i7 isn't necessarily going to be a permanent platform either. The arithmetic performance of the CPUs indicate their real purpose, which is server-grade calculations. A home user type chip is rumoured to appear in the not too distant future which will change the game again. To say i7 is futureproof for games is basically nonsense. Also, 4Ghz on an E5200 with the stock cooler? Oh dear. A case and PSU for 60 dollars combined? Oh dear oh dear.
You have to remember. If you can actually find a case and PSU for $60, it would run. 350W PSU would be enough to run that setup. The Q6600 is not that much futureproofed either. You are getting maybe 1.5x more per clock on an i7. If as you said, a new home user type CPU is rumored for release, why are you even thinking of building this anyways. Core i5s are the ones? If you want, you can wait for those... Whatever. It's all up to you...
Yeah, for about 2 weeks before the PSU went bang. The i7 may be 50% faster than Core 2 for arithmetics, but in games it's barely more than 10%. As for the new socket, it's unlikely to come out cheap, Core 2s still represent the best value systems.
is this build for an entry level gaming computer? i know there not the best parts but let me know what you think. Computer build number 4 Motherboard EVGA ($214.99) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813188024&Tpk=EVGA 132-CK-NF78-A1 LGA Cpu Intel ($189.99) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115017 Video card EVGA ($129.99) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130380&Tpk=EVGA 512-P3-N975-AR Memory Corsair ($59.99) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145184 Hard drive seagate ($64.99) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148377 Cd drive Lite-ON ($29.99) http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=4291644&CatId=482 OS Windows vista ($109.99) http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2864281&CatId=3778 Case Apevia ($79.99) http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1446794&Sku=A107-1050 Power supply PC Power & Cooling ($79.99) http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3247721&CatId=2533 Cpu fan Rosewill ($44.99) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835200013&Tpk=Rosewill RCX-Z3 92mm Total = $1009.90
That's an outrageously priced, and also outrageously bad motherboard. Why do the crappy nforces keep coming up? I keep trying to tell you they're not worth buying... At $1000, that's no entry level computer. It should be a high end gaming rig. The case isn't to my taste, isn't particularly well made or well cooled, but if you insist on using it, then I can't exactly stop you. The NZXT Alpha is a better designed case: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811146041 The Power supply is only cheap due to a rebate, which knowing tigerdirect's past track record for rebates, is by no means guaranteed to arrive, and you are not legally guaranteed it either. Save the money and get a less overkill power supply, i.e. this one: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139003 The CPU cooler is expensive and not particularly great. You will do far better with this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835154001 The DVD burner is at least OK, but you can save several dollars by buying one with the rest of the stuff at newegg, as you won't need to pay two lots of shipping costs, and the drive itself is about $7 cheaper there. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827136152 The hard disk is fine, but I prefer these as they're quieter, run much cooler and use less energy: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136073 The RAM and CPU are fine The graphics card is a poor choice, it's very slow for how much it costs. This card is miles better: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102770
since i honestly have no idea what im doing can you make a build for me? that cost less then mine and can run games with no lag? it would help alot. if not its fine. i just have alot to learn.
Take the modifications I've made to your build and apply them, that's all there is to it really, I've given you most of the components - the ones I haven't changed, leave the same.
