Final Fantasy 7 Remake?

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  1. CrisKahn2

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    rpg nowadays lack that connection between the gamer and the game it self. Good rpgs will have ppl replaying it over and over even tho they have fully complete it 100%. Im still playing Chrono Trigger and Seiken Densetsu 3 lol...

    I dont know what it is about those rpgs, sure isnt the graphics. So i kinda see why ppl would say that the original is better than the remake. If ff7 was remade im sure i would of liked the original better still. Depends i guess. But if the original was included like SupXL says then i guess im satisfied.
     
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    i didnt think of the fact that developers would change things here and there, and li'l things like that would make you just hate the remake. but there were 1000s of things in FF7 that drew you in, and some of that stuff you wont notice. at some point i read some person's theories, and now i must play it again and look for a couple of new things that i didnt notice before. there was waaaaayyyyy too much thought and planning put into 7. prob'ly more than any FF game in my opinion. it'd be hard to recapture EVERYTHING that made you love the game so much that it hurt to think of anything else. but MY main reason for wanting the remake, is an excuse to buy a PS3. there hasnt been anything announced that just blows me away to the point i must give away the money for the console. BUT if FF7 was remade, you better believe that i would do it.

    in all honesty, i think that SE can pull it off. they pulled off the game with 100 (or 300) programmers in the course of 3 years they made a stellar RPG game that took the world by storm and created an even larger fanbase. and now that is the game that has brought them (prob'ly) the most money in the history of Square(enix). i had heard of Final Fantasy back in the NES days, but never played any of them. i just had no clue of how good they could be. i wanted to try FF3 for SNES (FF6 in japan), but could never find it, or didnt realize what i needed to do early on in the game. so i never really got to enjoy it from days long ago. the first FF i played was what?? FF7 of course. a friend of mine just happened to have it, and showed me what could be done in the game with the summons. then i was immediately hooked. after he let me borrow it, i got into the story of it and that was the s~~t to make me love the game. there was so much to love about the game that i became an instant fan of the series. i have tried to play the entire series, but 1-6 just dont keep my attention. i dont doubt that there are good or great stories behind the games, but if you look at the numbers of sales for the series, 7 will probably more than double anything... but that's my assumption with no facts behind it.

    i say that square better hurry. the PSP is supposedly getting a PS1 emulator, and you can save games to your magic gate, or the hdd attachment thing for it. if that's the case, then i'll buy a psp and emulate my game from there. OR if the hacking/modding scene discover a way to emulate/run PS1 games from a console hdd, then my only reason for wanting the remake will be the graphics.... unfortunately.
     
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    The thing that hooks most newer RPG players (I'll include myself; FFVII was my first) is the character interaction. Any game with really believable character personalities and scenarios will (probably) be worth playing through at least once. This is why the modern RPG has a much broader fan base than older ones (FFVI <---). So say they do remake FFVII... of course its going to get a HUGE following and going catch A LOT of attention from everyone. And everyone will play it... because RPGs now are very addicting to a very large amount of people. But at this point I'm sure Square is more concerned about both their repuation and their future fan base than just making profit on one game. Sure, they could make a killing on FFVII if they remade it, but if it got their entire fanbase pissed off? That would take away from EACH new game they sold, which would lose them far more money than any one release could get them. So its not all about the economics here.
     
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    Lol the only thang i would stress they change most would be that walk a lil and bam you in a fight ! that sh*t got on my nerves man I like how star ocean was, how they show the enemys on the map they should do it like that
     
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    I don't mind slight changes its just remaking it for the sake of recreating it that gets on my nerves in the end no matter what they do they will make money of it............

    blacGoku
    A few games have used monsters roaming around on screen to start a random battle and it works but sadly they don't use it enough

    SuperXL
    Sadly before FF7 Square had to work hard on most of its games FF7 is the start of the downhill run for FF games at least when it comes to characters and gameplay............
    FF8 was pompous and poorly explained gameplay wise the story and characters were ok ,FF9 was great a true classic FF,FFX to many things removed from what makes a FF game then they watered down battles blah the story is top notch but if a game is not fun to paly whats the point,FFX2 is a knock off game like Vincents game DOC,FF11 is horrid FF12 yet again rapes the carcase that is FF the new live action battle system is painful however there is some hope for it since you can turn it off and go full turn based and FF13 uses a action point system akin to fallout and other turn based streatgy type games some liek teh way FF changes I do not slight evolutions in gameplay is ok but to overhaul it ever 2 games with unknown gameplay is a bit much


    Anyone recall that pice of equipment that Tifa had that gave her more attack power when she had a status aliment or soemthign and since status almigets lasted out of battle you could milk the power boost for awhile? it was a cursed item or soemthign I can rember it but I will enver forget it its not quite a glitch but still fun fun fun :3
     
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    you say FF7 was the start of down hill?? you're prob'ly right.

    i heard it took them forever (3+ years) and lots of manpower to get it done the way they wanted. and i think that may have tapped a lot of the creative juices. but if you think about how much was put into that game that you never noticed until you played it over and over, you start to love it more and more.

    8 kicked me in the neck with the unexpected shift in gameplay, but that is what you have to understand, sometimes change is necessary. some people claim that they absolutely hate turnbased RPGgames and it is the scourge that kills the brain. but i dont care, as long as the story is compelling. which is why i liked 8. 9 is definitely a classic with it's story and gameplay. definite keeper.

    for 10, i hated the lead character. actually just his voice and attitude, and manerisms, and basically i just hated the guy. but i got over that by using the MUTE BUTTON HAHAHAHAHA!!! and that sphere system was scary as hell at first, but i managed to figure it out and kind of liked it. but not that lead character. he just pissed me off at just about every turn.

    10-2 was something done for the fanboys who liked whatever. it was all about the scantily clad women in their quest to.... who cares. i played and beat that, but i do not own it. yay for me... i think.

    11 i wont play, dont care to pay a monthly fee just to play online. (plus i have no internet at home) i just hope that the rest of the Final Fantasy games live up to the amazing ass hype that FF7 created. that is one feat, that squarEnix will have a hard time topping.
     
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    ^^

    I have issues with FF8 at best its ok but to annoying

    FFX this is why US voice acting should ALWAY be accompanied with the japanase voice track....
    but besides that what really annoyed me was the battle system is not as precise as the 2d games plus the lack of a proper over world blah just blah

    I played FF11 for a few months, hot damn the MMO rules they use are old the setup is so restrictive and unfun its just......painfull.

     
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    I think FF8 followed FF7 really well....i didnt think it was downhill at all. YOu might not remember but when it came out in japan for the first time ppl were goin crazy over it. The 3d cut scence were amazingly realistic for its time. The main character was bad ass just like Cloud and the gunblade is sav no explaination needed....

    FF9 is probably where it went downhill imo...the only reason i liked that game is because i wanted to know what heppens to vivi and how it would end. Besides that i didnt really care much about the main character at all. Ever since FF9 the main character has been lil wussies with girl hair.
     
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    Yes and no FF story and character wise has been more or less solid its the rest of the game that has been fcked over.

    FF8
    Screwing with gameplay and equipment enough to halve FF fans yes the game did well however it created a divide in FF fandome


    FF9
    A ture classic FF compelte with chibi/mini characters a full world to explore a great equipment and skill system only the anti cute gamers bitched about it

    (the ending told me this its been a few months to a year sicne the final battle,the black ages ether can reproduce normally are they were ALOT of them made and after thos who were controlling them got defeated they made more black mage villages to live in peace or whatever *L* ,FF4,FF6,FF7,FF8 left me with a few Questions to but meh)

    FFX where quality and visuals did not meet...

    the game dose look great but it dose not make up for a fckd up equipment system watered down battle system, the sphere system works but I wish it had more unique character skills and stuff that a mish mash of stuff,the lac of the "World" is annoying the VAing is not great bearable but not great the story is solid the characters are ok but theres a gaping hole in the gameplay/equipment side of things.

    FFX2 I hate because they don't have a equipment system if you got amour and weapons and the dress spheres OMFG the evil tweaking you do but not tis a spin off game and feels every bit like one.


    (Preview)
    FF12 is another one where visuals trump logic...

    Without the ability to pause and slow down the action when YOU want to you can not control all your characters thus taking away a important aspect of the game this is not a movie ,keep your live action out of my RPG damnit! *L*

    At least they left turn based in as a option and for that I will give FF12 a chance the Wolrd setup is a cross between FF11 and FFX so you will have large in between areas to explore what I dislike is the random chest system for rare and unique stuff chests should not regen but I hate radndom chests in RPGs....

     
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    im not anti cute im just anti gay lol. "cute" characters like in kingdom hearts and Zelda windwaker are cool i like them. But gay looking like tidus and this new FF12 dude isnt my kinda thing.
     
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    Turn based combat is NOT an option is XII, i know, ive played it! XII is a decent game, and I feel i can say this since i own and have beaten every other final fantasy, multiple times. Yes, people want someting new, and XII gives them this for sure, but the battle system, accompanied by the anti climtatic summons leave a lot to be wished for. The skills system is much like that of X, so you either love it or hate it, i loved it. Hopefully square gets it right with the psp final fantasy and XIII. XII is a good game, but will alienate many people, basically a XI without the online feature.

    Final Fantasy 3 WILL ALWAYS OWN!
     
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    Oh? I bet you hate bishis(spetherioth) to :p

    Tiduos and the Vahn are "cute" teen males,they have overly child like appearances this is drool worth on females but annoying on guys but then you have to have issues to dislike good looking guys.
    Look at the FF4 and FF6 character icons bishies and cute males are not new,look at the FMV in the PSX FF5 remake unrealistic beautiful people are everywhere sadly...

    I am not a fan of bishis (femining looking males) or extra cute looking guys but its near dead last on my list of thigns to complain about

    1.function/skill
    2.Usefulness
    3.Personality
    4.VAing
    5.Weapon of chice
    6.Clothing
    7.Appearance
     
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    Oh? every review site I have seen says it is.


    3?? 3 in the US is 6,4 and 6 have the best story and setup of all the FFs...

    Jap USA
    FF1 FF1
    FF2 XX
    FF3 XX
    FF4 FF2
    FF5 XX
    FF6 FF3
    FF7 FF6
    FF8 FF8
    FF9 FF9
    FFX FFX
     
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    There arnt any US reviews(reputable atleast), its not even released yet....but there is no option...you will soon see. You can trust me on that one.
     
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    Phew I dunno guys... I'm playing through FFVIII again (its been YEARS since I last tried it...) and its painful. Like, it hurts me to sit here and push myself through this awful game when I could be playing so many others. I don't understand what people see in it. The main character is SO FRUSTERATING to hear talking and his support isn't all that supportive... they're not very interesting either. The plot is so losely held together, it seems like they designed the battle system, put all the bosses in, and wrote a story AROUND it. I don't know if I'll be able to finish haha...
     
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    First off the story is sent around love romance that nuance is lost on 50% of the male populace I get it but even I have seen better done characters and story thus I don't get it.....got it?

    2ndly some people love the gather aspect of the magic system...I don't...it frustrates me to no end add the lack of proper weapons and armor and I dislike it more

    3rdly the main reason why some love is is you have alot of control over how your characters stats develop I get that...but...again I have seen better add the frustration of the gameplay and thus I don't get it....... got it?


    I broke down and and used a game shark for FF8 I but in infinite items for the hidden summons,gave all magic inf castings meaning all you had to do was find it the first time(I think), After doing these 2 thigns the game actually became fun all you had to do then was raise the characters manage the inventory find items and stuff tog et new weapons follow the story and well...just setback and enjoy the game..not have to be bogged down with over the top frustrating crap.
     
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    THe only FF games i hated were 8 and X(X2)

    I hated the sphere grid. And now i hear rhat there makink X3!
     
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    the shpere grid system is ok just annoying to use when you use a inf item code,FFXs characters didn't have enough unique skills to make them stand out,they were kinda generic.
    FF12 will be using a SHP grind variant.
     
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    Zipp we're talking about those of us who aren't about to use a cheat code to beat the game. Thanks.
     
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    as I said the SHP system is not bad just the characters were under developed.
     
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