Final Fantasy XIII no longer exclusive to the PS3

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  1. Dab117

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    Grr... maybe they'll be getting a little more money from me after all
     
  2. Oner

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    It will be out in Japan as a PS3 100% Exclusive first, then out in the US as a PS3 Timed Exclusive then ported over to the 360. The PS3 is and has been the lead platform. Which is good for Squenix as the results will (hopefully) be unhindered for both consoles other than multi discs for the 360 which isn't really a big deal....but then again certain MS types always said installs where "bad" and now that the 360 will have installs how is it now?

    I actually think this can be a good thing for Sony but ONLY in the porting department/area as the quality of this game as well as the process of it being developed for the PS3 first will show that

    a) it is more cost effective to build on PS3 first
    b) the quality of the title will not be compromised as it would be if done the standard way (360 DVD then PS3 BD)
     
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  3. newcloud

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    then thats going to delay the game till 2011 if that
     
  4. Memnock

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    No modded consoles have always accounted for a small percentage of the consoles regardless of the platform by like less than 10%. Just look at the sales charts. Multi-plats always sell more on 360 despite it being hacked.
     
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  5. bhetrick

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    It's about time they gave users the option to install. But I doubt it'll be a mandatory install. That would leave a lot of Arcade/Core owners out in the dark.
     
  6. Pride1

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    As far as i've read it says that you'll be able to copy the WHOLE game to the Xbox360 HDD, i would assume this is optional, or maybe its the same as the PS3 mandatory installs

    They need to be clearer on this
     
  7. bhetrick

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    Naw... can't be mandatory. The 360 hdd is an optional purchase. So installing a game would also have to be optional.

    Plus, MS is saying you can play the entire game from the hdd. The disc would need to be in the tray to verify ownership, but wouldn't be read from during gameplay. So a 20 gig (16 free) would hold what, two games? So it just wouldn't fly being a mandatory install.

    It's a nice option. Now I'll finally get some use out of this 120 gig. It'd be even nicer if MS would let owners use their own hdd... like the PS3 lets you.

    I read a 500 gig 2.5 is due to be released soon.
     
  8. Oner

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    Definitely. They can't otherwise sell the game to the public, but my comment was just speaking in a general term about "installs"...plus if MS had the forethought to include a HD in every 360 then they would have had to allow installs right from the get go. Also something cannot be "mandatory" if EVERY game is not required to have an install (whether it be PS3 or 360).
     
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    I hear ya. You know how it is with MS... cheaper is better. They figured keeping the cost down by not making the hdd necessary would be a big hit. Of course sales between the Core and Premium showed differently. If they would have just included the hdd from the beginning, we probally would of had the option for game installs from the beginning.


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    Of course, thinking about it, if MS would have done that, then they would have needed to deal with the issue of the 20 gig being too small. A 40 or 60 gig would have been needed as a minimum. And that would have really driven up the retail cost.
     
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    If they're just standard HDD inside those casings then the cost difference between the 20 gig and a 60 gig is really negligible.

    And the price to buy a HDD separately for the 360 is ridiculous and even more so is that the 120 gig HDD doesn't cost that much more than the 20 gig HDD. That stupid casing must cost a but load to produce if they're asking that much for them.[/quote]

    Now the price isn't bad, but back in '05 60 gig 2.5" drives were still expensive.

    MS is saying that the new 60 gig LIVE Starter Pack will sell for $99, and the 120 gig will drop to $149.

    The 60 gig pack comes with:
    60 gig drive
    3 months LIVE
    headset
    network cable

    Keeping in mind that all console manufacturers accessories are expensive, $99 isn't bad for that.

    Checking Neweggs selection, their 60gig 2.5 drives run $45-$67. So we'll take the average of $56

    $56 - 2.5 60gig drive
    $20 - 3 months LIVE
    $20 - wired headset
    $5~$10 - network cable.


    That's over the $99 MS is selling the kit for.
     
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  11. bhetrick

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    I just quoted canuckerzs post.

    How did it get posted ABOVE his?
     
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    If they're just standard HDD inside those casings then the cost difference between the 20 gig and a 60 gig is really negligible.

    And the price to buy a HDD separately for the 360 is ridiculous and even more so is that the 120 gig HDD doesn't cost that much more than the 20 gig HDD. That stupid casing must cost a but load to produce if they're asking that much for them.
     
  13. BurnCK

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    Dont see what the problem is personally.....
    Whether or not the Xbox360 gets this game, the fact is that the PS3 will eventually dominate Xbox, especially when Home is released. Xbox just cant compete with that.

    Does the fact that a game is not exclusive really affect your decision to purchase it ?
     
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    idk it confused me too because when I posted it didn't bump it and it still said you had the last post =S
     
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    That issue is supposedly resolved.
     
  16. VWatts

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    Is FFXIII even dated yet?
    I have a feeling its delayed even more because they have to move resources for the 360 version. :/

    Thank you SquareEnix for taking care of your loyal fanbase.
    /sarcasm
     
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    I believe I read that the Jap PS3 version was going to be released, and then they'd start development on the 360 version.
     
  18. newcloud

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    yep there going to start development after the release of the japanese version
    which make me feel better knowing that there not going to cut parts of the game out
    just so the can squeeze in on to 4 (maybe more) disks
     
  19. Hunt720

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    I was a little disapointed with the news..

    I'm not a FF fan really.

    BUT it has meant a lot to the PS3 and many gamers who play the PS3. Just remember that FFXIII VERSUS is STILL an exclusive to the PS3. If the game is really going to be on multiple disks for the 360... then I dont really see many owners "installing it on the HDD" as many of them won't have the room... plus even if you DID have the "room", wouldn't you need to STILL insert disk 2,3,4,5, etc for verification??

    .. and that brings me to my next point: If the "disk drive wont be in use for games installed on the HDD" then what the hell is the point of putting the game in the drive??? I know it will probably scan it once just to make sure.. but doesn't that require USE!? WTF?? Just be straight up instead of glazing over the details to make the HDD installs you mocked on the PS3 seem "ok" when applied to the 360's proprietary and over-priced versions.

    This is bad news. I really hope they dont do what developers do with ALL other cross-platform titles which is:

    Try to make an EXACT copy as much as possible for both systems by creating the game for the system with the least power (360). Then make the game on 1 disc for the 360 and continue to not use the remaining GIGABYTES of data left on a BR disk that could add SOOOO much to the experience! ... but dont forget to charge the PS3 owners FULL PRICE for a game that was meant to run on a less powerful system.

    If I wanted to play games for the 360.. I would have KEPT IT! Don't punish me by not taking advantage of the specs of the PS3 for titles that are on both systems.

    .. and to be FAIR:

    I feel that the same would happen for both consoles to an extent. No matter which system you buy.. and then buy a multi platform title... you get a game that had exactly 1/2 of the development resources applied to your console. If Gears of War 2 or Halo 4 came out for BOTH systems.. it would suffer due to the fact that the development team would have to spend time making sure that it was "equal on both" instead on focusing on the compression schemes required for the DVD9 format.


    I truly hope that this doesn't become a trend in the industry.
    /vent
     
  20. xXxBG

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    WOW Square Enix, why dont you just sell the company to microsoft.
     

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