First DVD Burner!!!

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  1. dmcgrath

    dmcgrath Member

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    Hey everybody i am new to this site. I just got my first dvd burner today. Its an asus, and it came with nero burning software and also uload movie factory 4.0. But i cannot get to copy dvds, cuz they are protected! and i also had a chris rock movie downloaded onto my computer and it burnt off onto a dvd, but when i went to play it in my dvd player it says that the TV system doesnt' match! So if anyone here could explain how to fix both of these problems i would greatly appreciate it. Thank you.
     
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    also is there a problem with playing burnt DVD's in PS2???
     
  3. djscoop

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    to copy DVDs, you need to use the appropriate software to do so, you can't just do a DVD-Copy in nero like you can for an audio CD. use DVD Decrypter to copy the DVD to your hard drive, then DVD Shrink to encode the movie so it can fit on a DVD-R, then it will burn automatically in DVD Shrink if you have nero installed. there is a guide for using DVD Shrink here:

    http://www.afterdawn.com/guides/archive/dvd9_to_dvdr_with_dvd_shrink.cfm

    As far as your second question, it sounds like possibly a DVD Region issue or a PAL/NTSC issue. What country are your from? DVDs only play in the region they are meant for. I'm not familiar with Uload movie factory (if that's what you used) but when you burn the DVD, make sure you have the proper region selected, or better yet select region free if there is that option, and make sure you select the proper video format. If you live in America, use NTSC. Europe/Australia, use PAL.
     
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    and yes, copied DVDs will play just fine in a PS2, I use mine as my primary DVD player and it works great.
     
  5. brobear

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    I'll work backwards. djscoop is right about PS2 playing DVDs. But, PS2 is a bit expensive to be using when a cheap DVD player will do the same job. It's simply using a more expensive piece of hardware (and shortening it's useful lifespan) instead of using a cheaper piece of equipment. The question to ask yourself is, would you rather purchase a cheap dvd player next or another PS2. It could be a good reason to get a PS3. ;) By the way, does PS2 only play -R recorded discs (besides the DVD ROM)?

    The factory movies are protected from copying by encryption. Since DVD Decrypter and Shrink lost support some time back, they can't handle the newer encryption systems. AnyDVD from http://www.SlySoft.com is a good one that is kept up to date with frequent updates. With some encoding programs the user can just let AnyDVD run (it's a driver decrypter that runs in the background) and encode the disc with their encoding software as though the files weren't protected. DVD Shrink is a free encoding program that has it's own decryption software. The encoding is still good, but the decryption sofware is out of date. AnyDVD works for it as well.

    So, to put it simply, there are 3 major steps involved in backing up factory DVDs to DVD5.

    1)Break the encryption
    2)Encode (fit to the target) Not necessary with dual layer.
    3)Record (burn) the output files from the encode to DVD.

    Compatibility depends on different factors. Media format has to match the equipment. It can sometimes be an issue with both the burner and player. Booktype with a burner if it has the capability. That just means the burner takes a +R disc and writes files to it making it read like a DVD ROM which is the universal standard for DVD movies, -R doesn't booktype.

    As for region codes, AnyDVD neutralizes those, so the PC sees the DVD as matching the equipment. Set the backup to your region which your player should be set to and no problem. Normally one doesn't see too many out of region discs unless they travel internationally or live in a border region.
     
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  6. dmcgrath

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    so a ps2 will not play a DVD+R ???
     
  7. brobear

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    Check in the console games on that, but I heard someone mention -R for PS2 backups. They may have changed PS2 to support both or the person I heard it from may not know. That's why I threw in the question. PS2 is a little pricey for playing DVDs, but could be useful in a pinch though.
     
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    I'm not sure, I only have a -R burner, but I do know for sure that -R DVD movies and -R PS2 games work fine.
     
  9. brobear

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    djscoop
    You're right on that one. My friend who has a modded PS2 uses -R for his game backups. He's not been around lately or I'd have asked him on the +R format or if booktyping to DVD ROM might work.
     
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    brobear,

    I've noticed that your opinion on booktyping dvd+r media to dvd-rom has changed. I was always on the dvd+r booktyped dvd-rom bandwagon but you always insisted on dvd-r media. Glad to see you've experimented and found dvd+r booktyped dvd-rom a good choice. I'm just givin ya some sh*t. All in fun. Good to see ya hangin around some. OK back on topic.
     
  11. brobear

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    The weather's been bad and I don't ride the cycle as much in bad weather anymore. Age I guess. LOL

    You may have gotten me wrong on booktyping and I still have the same opinion. I wasn't particualarly in favor of -R. I've used +R for the longest. My opinion has been and is that booktyping isn't usually necessary. In most instances standalone players are compatible with both + and -R and the newer players support even more formats. The earliest players were DVD ROM only, -R was the first recordable format and then we got +R. To date, I've only run across one "DVD ROM only" standalone player. It was one of those cheap promotional items that magazines give away. It wasn't even one of the antiquated items. Unless a person already has a drive that booktypes, it would be more economically feasible to buy an inexpensive DVD drive than a more expensive burner that booktypes. I think it's just a matter of compatibility and economics.

    My opinion has always been it's no problem to use booktyping if you have it as an option. Just don't run out to get a new drive if the one you have doesn't. Many of the drives on the market don't booktype, so it isn't an industry priority and it doesn't seem to be a consumer priority either. As the old Senior Chief used to say, "Smoke em if you got em". ;)

    I have a few hundred backups, I have an extensive video library from over the years. Most of the backups are in +R format. (Where'd you get -R? ) Only in the recent past did I acquire a burner that will booktype. No difference at all in compatibility. I do have booktyping set, but it's only in case I want to play a backup for someone with an antique, portable, or low budget player. That hasn't happened yet. For me, it's still not an issue and it makes no difference on my equipment. Booktyping is really only helpful for a small niche group of users with DVD ROM only players. There may be those it helps in other instances, there I suspect poor firmware and/or a placebo effect. LOL Of more importance to me on the new drive was the ability to use Plextools for testing media quality.
     
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  12. brobear

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    Now to tie that to the topic. LOL If a person buying a new burner thought booktyping might be helpful, then that is the time to make the decision. It would be a decent option for a "First DVD Burner". (Priority is in the need of the user.) LOL Got it in there. Nice chatting with you Mort. Seems it got back on topic. ;)
     

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