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Got a letter for dload from cox abuse tracking system

Discussion in 'Windows - P2P software' started by damatrixz, Jun 7, 2004.

  1. isis1774

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    I just got a letter today, and I can't seem to get a straight answer from Cox at all, first they said they thought it was a fraudulant letter, then I was told there was nothing on my account stating I would be disconnected, and now I am waiting on the phone to talk to the tech guys again, (however the first CSR i jsut talked to said he was surprised and said he might be getting letter himself because he does the same thing!) I just don't want to be disconnected from my internet service for something that I didn't even know was a problem... I just used bit torrent, sharing files, I could have just as easily got a tape for the TV show's I downloaded from a friend... that's not illeagle...anyway,.... here's hoping I can get a straight answer. .....

    Just got off the phone, they still didn't seem to know what I was talking about, but they said that as long as the file was removed from my system all should be ok... They said that Cox can't and doesn't look into what people are downloading, and it's up to the company to go any further... My only concern now, is that there were actually five episodes of DLM on there, and now I have to go through this for all five... but the CSR assured me that as long as the files were no longer on my computer that there wasn't a problem. How do they know what's on my computer I asked her, she said anyone at anytime can get into you computer and look... that's a freaking scarey thought!
     
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  2. oso

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    Its been about 6 weeks since mine, and basically you have nothing to be worried about if you stop downloading. Bit torrent is possibly the worst thing ever for downloading things, because the access and focus its getting from watchdog companies is unreal. I doubt you'll get a letter for each episode, I had previously thought the same thing, but never did. Its just getting bad, infringing on privacy that companies are threatening ISPs and they're folding and searching us. Of course, if it stops some harmful things I guess it could be good.
     
  3. isis1774

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    It's just crazy, and I feel violated... That means that anyone can see what I have on my system anytime they want...luckily it's not that exciting. hehe.

    But really when you think about it, what's next. I can't share music with a friend, but I can copy and burn a CD and physically give it to them as a gift and that's fine. I can tape or tivo shows all the time, watch them at my leisure, but I can't dl a show. People can hide popup trojans and other viruses in my computer without my knowledge and that's not illegal, but someone can look through my ISP and see what I dl and it's fine! There has to be a line, a place to start to fight against this... If I can't dl things free, that's fine... but give me opportunities to see and hear things in other forms. List my shows (Which happened to be Dead Like Me) on sites and charge for them. I would have gladly paid a moderate fee instead of subscribing to Showtime for something that I didn't want. You can buy music by the song now, instead of paying for a whole crappy CD that isn't worth $15 bucks... Unfortuanatly or maybe fortunatly, depending on how you look at things, it's a whole new world out there and Companies that have been major players in the past are going to have to adapt to it... When you look at shows (and these are only examples that I am familiar with) like Buffy or Dead Like Me, part of what makes them the show's that they are is the support from the Net. Message boards, Websites drive viewers to see it more. It's not simply tune in on Tuesday and wait each week to see it. It's a whole world of discussion and debate and speculation. It's a community across the world in this Brave New World... Companies are going to have to get with the program. I am just so mad, and I don't know where or how to start to fight it.
     
  4. bruuil

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    i received the same letter entitled "Cox Abuse Tracking System" which says that MGM has informed them of my IP address downloading one of their materials.

    Where is the government in all this? Shouldn't Cox move on threats only made by the government? Why MGM?

    What are some alternative companys to switch to in stead of using this company that may have infringed my constitutionally implied privacy rights?

     
  5. dreamer2

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    it started from 2004 and i got letter after three years
     
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  6. afunguy24

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    stop dl movies from torrent and either direct download them or dl them from IRC if you dl from torrents you gonna get caught plain and simple don't set yourselves in that trap espically if you in the UsA.

    Or on the other hand complain to your isp that you have done nothing wrong and tell them disassociate any info about what and when you dl to from 3rd parties. because you isp is supposed to protect you unless you dling child porn or terrorism "stuff" this is harassment id just complain to my isp about it prob solved
     
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    what about changing your internet service provider like switching to verizon fiber optics and also does games also count in copyrights law or any body tracking games download or we can download them without any fear. and how to use irc . i never use that .can u lead me to a guide for that .i will be thankful
     
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    dl mirc, xdcc klipper,and search packetnews.com and you all set:D
     
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    quit using p2p/bt for your downloads. the way I see it, you are asking for trouble.... use newsgroups (usenet) I have never heard of anybody ever getting notified of abuse that uses newsgroups. you never see riaa/mgm/music industry/movie industry taking anybody to court for newsgroup activities. only p2p/bt users

    my 2 cents :)

    Edit: cox and most isp's have news servers that you are already paying for....might as well use them. if not, search for "free news server list" and find free ones if you can't afford to pay for a quality one. most pay servers are unlimited d/l for like $15 a month with unlimited speed..
     
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    i tried to get hold of irc and newsgroups but cant figure them and get them too work. am i dumb in this or its little difficult. thanks. and one more thing . is there any harm in downloading games from torrent
     
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    Sorry to hear you were pounded on, looks like you have two options.

    1) feed them crap on how you own the licences to what your downloading and to never bother you again.

    2) move ISP.
     
  12. dreamer2

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    i m definetely changing my isp to verizon fibre optics. it should be faster than cable at the same price
     
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    i have to laugh, i started reading this thread as it seemed interesting ,then half way through i thought chrizt this seems familar,sum dummy thinking peer guardian solves all his/her problems,then i realise its 3 yrs old, and i wonder what legimate reason could there be for restarting a thread so old/outdated, the answer is of course nothing ! nothing new at all to be learned
     
  14. pablo3

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    You mean you got a letter 3yrs ago, you did not stop downloading, and you got another one 3 yrs later? Could you please give a bit more details..

    Someone I know has recently received a similar letter.
    From bayTS to Cablevision/Optimum Online, and they sent it with with attachement to someone I know, it was in real mail, not in e-mail. It was for an animated movie Baytsp wrote that on behalf of paramount pictures.

    Basically, this happens to people who just downloads one or two things once in a blue moon, and they get caught.. It seems like people who continuously downloads stuff never get caught! Strange..
     
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    oh i started using torrent from 2004 and that is my first letter and i m switching to fibre optics soon.
     
  16. pablo3

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    thanks for your response.
    We were pretty shook up with the letter. It is indeed scary.
    Oh, and I don't think it will make any different to switch providers.

    ISPs will still keep logs of which IP was assigned to which MAC/Customer.
    Then if they get a letter from baytsp or music industry they will still warn you. It is a good way to reset your points to zero. Since ISP thinks it is your first warning, and since baytsp or someone else thinks you are someone else. But not a way to escape anything. Best way to escape is to stop downloading illegal stuff off p2p.
     
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    i mostly download games. i dont d load that much movies. i got caught because i was using a public tracker. most of the time i used private trackers with peergaurdian but somehow that day i forgot to turn on .and for movies if i really want them i can get blockbuster membership rent and copy those movies thats easier i think
     
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    I think it makes no difference what type of copyrighted material it is. There have been several reports that companies went after software downloaders as well.
     
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    i think i heard of softwares but not for any games warning letter and if u search most of letter are sent by cox and comcast you will rarely see verizon letter bcoz it randomly changes ip
     
  20. kateman

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    wait, what is the software that is spying on you guys?
     

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